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15. Which is why you read the journal articles instead of trusting the web site. (nt)

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GMO's are they safe? There is no way to be sure yet...there are no absolutes in young science... [View all] Drew Richards Aug 2014 OP

You reflect my feelings very well. immoderate Aug 2014 #1

Thanks hope some see it before it gets buried Drew Richards Aug 2014 #2

Evolution is not infinite. jeff47 Aug 2014 #18

I understand that not every combination will come to exist. immoderate Aug 2014 #59

And your suspecting comes from assuming (virtually) every combination has been tried jeff47 Aug 2014 #62

Not really. I know the possibilities involved. Many orders of magnitude. immoderate Aug 2014 #65

Yes, actually. jeff47 Aug 2014 #67

The only assumption I made was that genes evolved from a common ancestor. immoderate Aug 2014 #80

If that were true, you wouldn't ask the question. jeff47 Aug 2014 #81

Common ancestor <> close relatives immoderate Aug 2014 #83

Wow, your understanding is even more abysmal. jeff47 Aug 2014 #86

I'm wondering why you keep reading the opposite of what I'm saying. immoderate Aug 2014 #92

Just label them already. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2014 #3

Here is a pretty good series that addresses quite a few of your points. Eko Aug 2014 #4

I watched your vid here is what i got... Drew Richards Aug 2014 #10

Thanks Eko Aug 2014 #12

You argue your position very well Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #5

How many times do you like explaining to people that women should be paid the same as men? jeff47 Aug 2014 #6

There isn't universal agreement among reputable scientists on this matter. pnwmom Aug 2014 #34

Mechanism. Your example still needs one. jeff47 Aug 2014 #57

Why should the FDA require the mechanism by which a GMO might produce danger? pnwmom Aug 2014 #60

It does to pull a drug. jeff47 Aug 2014 #61

I'm not suggesting we pull GMO's. I'm saying they should be labeled. pnwmom Aug 2014 #69

You're saying we should fear science. jeff47 Aug 2014 #70

No, I'm not. The GMO producers are. They're clearly terrified of the results independent pnwmom Aug 2014 #71

You should probably go look at post 7. jeff47 Aug 2014 #72

Just because the funding is independent doesn't mean the research wasn't restricted pnwmom Aug 2014 #74

Actually, it does. jeff47 Aug 2014 #76

Scientists can't purchase the seeds except through Monsanto, pnwmom Aug 2014 #77

How many times do you want to make the same error? jeff47 Aug 2014 #82

And in Europe they have decided, based on the evidence that you reject, to strictly regulate GMO's. pnwmom Aug 2014 #84

No, they decided based on irrational fear jeff47 Aug 2014 #85

Oh right. Because all those European scientists are suffering from irrational fear. pnwmom Aug 2014 #87

Ande here is a site that lists Eko Aug 2014 #7

Oh, I'm sure the OP has read every single one of those citations, Eko MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #9

no but to be fair im willing to take a look...only thing that bothers me is the whois lookup Drew Richards Aug 2014 #14

Which is why you read the journal articles instead of trusting the web site. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #15

How very subjective to start that way... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #17

We don't think they're "safe" in Hawai'i and are fighting to keep them at bay Cha Aug 2014 #8

Huh, I would like to see Eko Aug 2014 #11

There isn't any. jeff47 Aug 2014 #19

The study in that article Eko Aug 2014 #27

Yes, the author now uses pay-to-publish journals. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #58

We are the lab Rats bahrbearian Aug 2014 #13

We have always been the lab rats Eko Aug 2014 #16

We were lab rats for Monsanto's DDT that's for sure gyroscope Aug 2014 #24

Yeah, Eko Aug 2014 #25

You know the old saying? gyroscope Aug 2014 #26

Well the US govt thought is was safe also. Eko Aug 2014 #28

Do you believe everything the govt tells you? gyroscope Aug 2014 #29

I think you fail to see my point. Eko Aug 2014 #31

Actually gyroscope Aug 2014 #33

So we Eko Aug 2014 #36

as a matter of fact Eko Aug 2014 #37

Monsanto knew for years DDT was dangerous gyroscope Aug 2014 #40

I dont believe any food Eko Aug 2014 #49

You can eat all the GMO you want gyroscope Aug 2014 #38

Because there are a bunch of people out there Eko Aug 2014 #39

What are you talking about? gyroscope Aug 2014 #41

ok then Eko Aug 2014 #43

and Eko Aug 2014 #44

and Eko Aug 2014 #45

Still doesn't say anything gyroscope Aug 2014 #50

from the wired site Eko Aug 2014 #53

on this site Eko Aug 2014 #51

Here is the link Eko Aug 2014 #52

What the heck is www.belch.com? gyroscope Aug 2014 #46

yeah, pro GMO Eko Aug 2014 #48

Not organic. From your link above... Luminous Animal Aug 2014 #68

And here are some organic mangos that were recalled for the same thing. Eko Aug 2014 #47

You think that a transglobal corporate monster like Monsanto should be allowed Peace Patriot Aug 2014 #56

I will give you this Eko Aug 2014 #54

out for the night Eko Aug 2014 #55

Corporate trolls don't care how valid and logical our arguments are, their Zorra Aug 2014 #20

Suing farmers for saving seeds? gyroscope Aug 2014 #21

If you watch the video I posted Eko Aug 2014 #23

Who are you claiming Eko Aug 2014 #22

Isn't it obvious? nt Zorra Aug 2014 #30

Do you often do that? Eko Aug 2014 #32

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #42

Thanks for the post, Drew Richards. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #35

Well done, and thanks. nt LWolf Aug 2014 #63

Biology isn't a young science n/t Motown_Johnny Aug 2014 #64

I am not talking about the biological cross breeding through biological invito or standard Drew Richards Aug 2014 #66

Which relies on all the old stuff to work. jeff47 Aug 2014 #73

... Zorra Aug 2014 #88

Basic math. Learn some. jeff47 Aug 2014 #89

How about this ~ stop rendering food producing areas infertile, and improve the waste factor? Zorra Aug 2014 #91

Nor is genetics. HuckleB Aug 2014 #90

Is nuclear energy safe? It is a somewhat new science. So to speak. Rex Aug 2014 #75

I agree completely I just hope we proceed with caution and transparency as you say... Drew Richards Aug 2014 #78

Must have both, otherwise we can lose objectivity imo. Rex Aug 2014 #79