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In reply to the discussion: Rise of the 'Unholy Alliance' of Libertarians and Leftists [View all]joshcryer
(62,265 posts)But you fall into a very big trap if you don't call them out on their BS.
A climate change denier says "we don't have an exact value for CO2 forcing."
That is absolutely, 100%, true. The denier is correct we don't have an exact value.
We have a range. And that rage is correct to several sigma. It's very likely to be within that range.
So we know with 95% certainty but then the denier retorts, "But you don't really know."
That's the language of the libertarian capitalist. They are absolutely for marijuana legalization, but they are not against discrimination based upon marijuana usage. How is this compatible with our views? There is no compatibility. They are fooling us. Even on issues we agree upon, they don't actually agree.
So, fine, you say "if they try to block non-discrimination based on marijuana usage, we'll call them out on it." Except at that point it's too late, you've been their ally, they will call you an ally, they will say that you agree on all issues but this one, and what does it matter, who wants more laws, right? You come to the table with a lower hand and they know it. That's how the Reganites, the Libertarians, have been winning. They force the narrative to be about their faux views and when you call them on it you're left standing there with nothing.
I refuse to ally with libertarians because I know what happened when the anarchists allied with the state socialists who shared their views. I know about the prison camps, I know about the forced labor, about the executions. And really, right wing capitalism is actually fascism, so why I would ally with fascists on even the smallest detail is beyond me.