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In reply to the discussion: Let me be crystal clear here with with regard to "Liberals" [View all]Z_California
(650 posts)First of all, I am not a Rand Paul supporter. I think he is a racist douchebag along with everyone else in the cesspool that is the GOP. Have I said that clearly enough because I've said it enough times in the last two days to make me think some just don't want to hear it? I do not want him to be elected. If you think I do or you insist on saying that I have "heralded" him I have to believe that you're either 1) playing dumb and going on offense so you don't have to defend HRC's weaknesses on certain issues (in which case you're not a citizen of a message board but a propaganda shill for your chosen candidate) 2) you haven't really read my posts but are going off of headlines or other propaganda shills or 3) you just don't read well (in which case I apologize for taking you to task).
I never suggested that "liberals" or "progressives" or "leftists" would vote for him if you define those terms as someone who is fairly well rounded on the issues and stands for individuals over "The Man". He doesn't need liberals or progressives to vote for him because they only make up about 25-35% maybe? He's going to get the 35% racist/sexist/homophobic vote no matter what - they ain't voting for any "D". Who makes up the rest? A bunch of people who don't pay much attention to anything other than 30 second TV spots and probably won't ask many questions and may not make up their mind until Election Day. You know, the "undecided"s. How fucking stupid do you have to be to be "undecided"? Pretty fucking stupid and that's who will decide who the ruler of the universe is in a couple years.
If HRC can't come out and say "Hey I think a police state is a bad thing and we need to take steps to make sure 1st amendment rights are protected and summary executions are not carried out in the streets" then she might be vulnerable to any Republican who will say that. So why concede the issue? If she could just PRETEND like she's not a Wall Street crony and that she's against brutal authoritarian repression, then she would get more votes. That's all I'm saying.
She could conceivably lose both sides of the Ferguson "debate" (a term which I use loosely). Of course the racist haters on one side of the "debate" will vote GOP AND the "undecided"s (and remember, they are very stupid) who were on the other side of that "debate" Have you thought about that? A lot of people are fired up on both sides and a lot of them are stupid.
This was the point I was trying to make yesterday and many of those who attacked me as a "Paulbot" or "Concern Troll" know VERY well this was what I was trying to say. It's easier to attack than it is to defend on this issue.
To prove that I'm capable of accepting criticism, I'm going to take the advice of the best critical response I received yesterday. I'm going to stop talking about this until after we take care of business here in November.
After that, it's fucking on...