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Niceguy1

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Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:29 PM

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Goodbye, Columbus: Seattle Commission wants name stricken from holiday [View all] The Blue Flower Aug 2014 OP

Frankly I Do Not Approve. rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #1

Worldwide? I don't think. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #4

I applaud their decision LittleGirl Aug 2014 #8

"He was a murderous thief." True but he also provided a major discovery for cstanleytech Aug 2014 #9

Eurocentric Viewpoint NEOBuckeye Aug 2014 #12

" Eurocentric Viewpoint" Nope. A discovery of knowledge one. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #13

"Major discovery for Europe" nilram Aug 2014 #17

Because it also was later shared with the rest of the world nil, doh. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #35

Columbus actually didn't discover North America - he never landed there. chrisa Aug 2014 #22

My ruddy brownish ancestors would contest that. Chan790 Aug 2014 #31

Did they know at that time of China? I doubt it. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #36

Did Europeans in the 1400s know of China? Chan790 Aug 2014 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Aug 2014 #54

Yes, I know but did the Cree who you refered to know? I doubt it. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #55

Probably not. Chan790 Aug 2014 #56

So, are you saying Columbus day should be celebrated because it gave indigenous people... Moonwalk Aug 2014 #57

No, rather it should be celebrated for encouraging exploration which cstanleytech Aug 2014 #61

Then why not call it Exploration Day? Lancero Aug 2014 #62

Fine by me. nt cstanleytech Aug 2014 #63

The problem is that what exploration really led to was the wholesale slaughter.... Moonwalk Aug 2014 #66

No, what led to that was greed, ignorance and general assholery. nt cstanleytech Aug 2014 #67

Some Have Suggested RadicalGeek Aug 2014 #30

Not worldwide. (nt) mr blur Aug 2014 #11

For nearly a hundred Years, this Country honored a Genocidal Maniac PeoViejo Aug 2014 #19

long over do klyon Aug 2014 #53

Agree, Leave it. greytdemocrat Aug 2014 #64

Just because it's been done for a long time is not justification to continue. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #71

Yes, well, then the date makes no sense. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #2

There is no specific date for celebrating the arrival of First Nations on the North American merrily Aug 2014 #29

Why doesn't it "make sense". Celebrating the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25, now that doesn't make sense rhett o rick Aug 2014 #72

Silly season. tritsofme Aug 2014 #3

Simply rename it "Columbus was an Imperialist Genocidal Maniac Day" Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #5

And what does Columbus , Ohio packman Aug 2014 #6

It's not about the name, it's about a particular man with that name honored with a holiday. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #7

Let's not forget the Columbia river Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #10

We'll work on those. nilram Aug 2014 #20

Columbine is named after a flower. Chan790 Aug 2014 #34

Also, is it appropriate to name our nation's capital after a guy who owned hundreds of slaves? Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #47

There's not much we can do about places outside of the U.S.A., but why not change names... Moonwalk Aug 2014 #60

Fuck Christopher Columbus geomon666 Aug 2014 #14

Excellent..I hope it catches on... Tikki Aug 2014 #15

Celebrating Columbus Day? ChazII Aug 2014 #16

surprised angrychair Aug 2014 #18

Seattle's my kind of town tea and oranges Aug 2014 #21

+1 for that last sentence. :) nt Tree-Hugger Aug 2014 #58

Good ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #23

I love Columbus Day LittleBlue Aug 2014 #24

Celebrating the birthday of a murder, maybe a genocidal one, make no sense, no merrily Aug 2014 #28

Columbus' voyages were a world historical event. They brought globalization's first round. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #25

It was "discovered" by First Nations, Amerigo Vespucci and the Vikings, too. merrily Aug 2014 #27

Columbus's "discovery" was the one that made an impression on the world. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #40

Isn't that what I said? That Columbus's voyage/report was the one that merrily Aug 2014 #74

It was a big deal, indeed, and would have inevitably occurred. earthside Aug 2014 #43

I like it. Someone beheaded the statue of Columbus in a waterfront park in Boston a few merrily Aug 2014 #26

Good idea for a city named after a Native American chief Laughing Mirror Aug 2014 #32

Native people discover Columbus JEB Aug 2014 #33

Alot of holidays to celibrate things have their dark side. Christmas is the best example. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #38

I, for one, would be delighted to get rid of Christmas and replace it with Yuletide... Moonwalk Aug 2014 #59

It would make life a lot simpler. JEB Aug 2014 #68

"I am a solstice kind of guy." nothing wrong with that imo just like there isnt anything wrong with cstanleytech Aug 2014 #69

Aside from the obscene consumerism. JEB Aug 2014 #70

If we must celebrate the first Europeans to come to North America... TheMightyFavog Aug 2014 #37

Mmm actually the vikings had slaves, they were called þræll. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #39

That would be cool, because we could wear horned helmets to celebrate it (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #46

And drink mead! TheMightyFavog Aug 2014 #49

I don't think the Vikings wore "horned helmets". They wouldn't be practical in battle. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #73

Yay! "History supplies little more than a list of people who have helped themselves... Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #41

Good, it should be. Yay for Seattle. uppityperson Aug 2014 #42

Why not do away with the holiday completely? 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #44

To memorialize the pure evil of the man. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #48

I have not paid any attention to Columbus day in years. I think the man was disgusting. BlueJazz Aug 2014 #50

meh Niceguy1 Aug 2014 #51

Oh. For a second there, I thought the NHL Blue Jackets were moving west. KamaAina Aug 2014 #52

works for me--I do not honour that genocidal thug. niyad Aug 2014 #65