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malthaussen

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20. Clearly, I don't think so.

Reply to sulphurdunn (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:06 PM

Aug 2014

You may argue that the two are not congruous, but I might equally argue that is quibbling. However, if you wish to argue that the central point of rape is that of consent, and that the man's statement might better be given as "She gave her consent," and hers be given as "I gave no such consent," then you still must address the point that, in matters of consent, a person knows their own mind best, and can not as certainly speak of another's.

-- Mal

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Rumination on misogyny. [View all] malthaussen Aug 2014 OP

one thing dsc Aug 2014 #1

Yes, that is the problem with an imperfect justice system. malthaussen Aug 2014 #2

false rape is between 2-3% per fbi and scotland yard, the same as other crimes. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #3

I am not saying it is a high number of cases dsc Aug 2014 #5

I'll have to quibble there, dsc. malthaussen Aug 2014 #6

I apologize if my inference wasn't your implication. dsc Aug 2014 #9

the number is the same as in al crimes. so i expect to have a consideration in the same manner seabeyond Aug 2014 #7

It is dsc Aug 2014 #10

In any event, of course... malthaussen Aug 2014 #11

way to jump in and derail the conversation? mopinko Aug 2014 #19

sorry dsc Aug 2014 #25

i figured you had been here long enough mopinko Aug 2014 #26

there are places called safe spaces for a reason dsc Aug 2014 #28

except that is not what you are doing. mopinko Aug 2014 #31

You don't get to dictate terms of discussion here dsc Aug 2014 #35

Because some wimmins is assholes XemaSab Aug 2014 #21

An Excellent Illustration, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #4

Thank you, Sir. malthaussen Aug 2014 #12

"It is not, therefore, for me to define the phenomenon for those who have had such experience" etherealtruth Aug 2014 #8

Excellent post BainsBane Aug 2014 #13

point. we have many men that do. maybe that is in part hearing so loudly the men unable/unwilling.nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #14

That would seem to be the essence of empathy. malthaussen Aug 2014 #15

DURec leftstreet Aug 2014 #16

Thank you. malthaussen Aug 2014 #17

When the woman says the man raped her sulphurdunn Aug 2014 #18

Clearly, I don't think so. malthaussen Aug 2014 #20

What's legally relevant is not the person's own mind, but whether consent was expressed. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #24

Yes, I should have been clearer... malthaussen Aug 2014 #30

Sorry, I'm still not getting it. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #34

Consider, then, rather than "consent," "intent." malthaussen Aug 2014 #37

Are you speaking legally or personally? mythology Aug 2014 #22

Feelings, mythology, are subjective. malthaussen Aug 2014 #23

Very good post marym625 Aug 2014 #27

i think what is interesting with the OP, is the exploration. seabeyond Aug 2014 #29

Great OP. k&r. nt sufrommich Aug 2014 #32

does that same illustration work hfojvt Aug 2014 #33

Don't see why it shouldn't apply to misandry, hfojvt. malthaussen Aug 2014 #36

"you can be a misogynist and not be a bad person" hfojvt Aug 2014 #38