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johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
97. That's why I said that's the trick.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 02:21 PM
Sep 2014

Michael Moore is rich from selling those documentaries but he still highlights the injustices in this nation, doesn't he?
And the truth is you really don't need as much money as you think you do.
But it depends on how dependent on money you are.

If you're comfortable living in a $50,000 a year or less economic status, then those millions & millions can work like those guys' billions & billions.
If you're fine with a simple house or even renting a place while you use the grand majority of your money to fight for the cause, then you can do this.
The mistake people make is the indulgence.
When you build mansions & ranches & other things that take a LOT of financial upkeep.
When you start living like Robin Leach's Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous.
THAT'S when you have the problem.
Now you're concerned about upholding your lifestyle & that runs counter to the reforms you were aiming to make.
You become compromised & eventually live up to that limousine liberal stereotype.

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Me personally? This is EXACTLY what I'm going to do.

I don't like the money system. It's a bad game.
It's a finite system that CREATES poverty by its very design.
Human beings get it backwards on the idea of value.
We value what is rarer. And I'll tell you why that is.
We simply can't recreate certain materials in our limited human state.
We can't just up & create water out of the blue. We can't create life by putting compounds of carbon together.
If you lose an arm, that arm is gone forever & what they replace it with is really not the same & not nearly as useful.
We can remix & recombine but we cannot recreate.

So because of this limitation we try to preserve what can't be recreated & value it highly.
This is how we assigned high value to rare things. Like first edition baseball cards or comic books or even paintings.
But that idea is absolutely backwards.
There's nothing on Earth more valuable to human beings than air, water, food, shelter, belonging.
The Maslow Hierarchy.
Air is abundant, water is somewhat abundant too, so is food.
Just because they're plentiful does that make them worthless?
Of course not. Because value means USEFULNESS.

If you're dehydrated & starving abandoned in a desert, what is more useful to you?
A pack of gold bars from Fort Knox or cold water & a hot meal?
I can't eat gold. I can't drink gold.
People created the money system putting value on these less valuable things to make trade easier.
Universal Trading Pieces, I call them. Ears of corn ain't equal & neither are farm animals.
It's a go-between & its power only comes from the trading of it, the EXCHANGE of it.
The value is the product or service we buy with those pieces.
Money is just a middleman getting in the way of value.
At best it's only OPTION power. But it's ultimately useless by itself.

Problem is we're all born into this bad money game & the things that are valuable are barred to us thanks to this middleman.
And certain individuals want it that way so they can wield their Option Power against us.
Just like every other animal in the animal kingdom, human beings love to play these dominance games.
Money acts as a bouncer at a club & we all trade our livelihoods for the chance that the bouncer lets us into this VIP room of value.
Those left out of that VIP room get cold out there in the streets waiting to get past that bouncer.
The trick is not caring about getting into that club.
What's the purpose of the bouncer if nobody's trying to get into the club?

The other trick is those that had access to areas in that VIP room bring some of that value out to people cold on the streets.
Get inside to bring it outside.
What can the bouncer say? You're a VIP member.

I don't need much to live on.
I can be comfortable with $30,000 a year.
I'll DAMN SURE be comfortable with $50,000 a year.
Money after that means nothing to me because I will have everything I value.
So if I make $100,000,000 in a year, where do you think most of that money is going?
Take away $30,000 & you got $99,970,000. Take away $50,000 & you got $99,950,000.
Both of those numbers are effectively the same as $100,000,000.
I will use that money to beat these suckers at their own game.
I'm not bound by the worship of money & wealth & I will infiltrate that club to destroy it from within.
And to help others overrun that bouncer so they can destroy that club from the outside.

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And by the way, integrity ain't getting us nowhere.
These guys are not playing by the same rules as you & me.
They have less holding them back so OF COURSE they're gonna go further with their aims.
So bully the bullies is what I say. Give 'em a dose of their own medicine.
Remember Elite means Few. They're outnumbered.
Without their rings of protection & persuasion, they're nothing.
They change the rules to put things in their favor, they can't be mad when we change the rules & put things in our favor.
Algebra. What is done to one side, must be done to the other.

They wanna be ruthless? Show 'em how ruthlessness is REALLY done.
They'll cry foul & that's when you hit 'em harder.
Eventually they'll stop crying. A bunch of a big brats who no one ever puts in check, that's what these guys are.
You try to keep integrity & these guys keep running ramshackle all over you.
So next time they run, put your leg out & trip these sons of bitches.

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And about that 'working together' thing. It doesn't work. Not effectively anyway.
If it did, why do we have the SAAAAME EXACT problems for millenia on end?

Human beings are FRACTIOUS.

I learned from the cartoon Garfield & Friends that no two people can ever agree on the same toppings on a pizza.
That allegory means that human beings will always fracture somewhere somehow.
That's how religious sects get started. That's how sects in political movements get started.
What IS Christianity? What IS Islam? What IS Feminism?
Like I told you I'm not making the mistake of disregarding the truth about human nature.

I DON'T have confidence in human beings to hold anything together. It's not what we are. It's not what we do.
Anything good that came out of this world was MANIPULATED & MANUFACTURED into being.
Some wise person came up with an idea & arranged people & things to make it happen.
Sometimes they arranged people to temporarily align as a movement, sometimes they manipulated the machinery of society itself solo.
But it wasn't started by the masses themselves.
More people means more problems.

The three universal rules of humanity you must know are these:
#1 People Are Selfish.
#2 People Are Lazy.
#3 People Are Weak.


These are not good or bad things in themselves. Each has a beneficial aspect & a detrimental aspect.
On #1 People Are Selfish:
No person will ever look out for a person more than that very person himself/herself.
When a group of people are having fun playing Russian Roulette & telling you to join the fun, you have to look out for yourself & say no. They're not gonna be as invested in your well-being as you will be.
So you must be Self-focused to preserve yourSELF.
But this is the same exact thing that causes the fractiousness in human beings.
Everybody is ultimately in it for their own personal interests. Self-focused.
We don't even relate to other species unless it reminds us of ourselves in some way.
Why does a jackrabbit named Bugs Bunny stand upright, hold a carrot with a thumb, & talk with the facial expressions human beings have?
Why do we see the roach-like Alien from the Alien movies as a monster?

On #2 People Are Lazy:
Human beings have limited energy in their bodies.
They only can do so much before the reserves are depleted.
That's why people are always looking for the easiest way to do something for themselves.
The more personal energy something takes up, the less a person is going to want to do it.
But this rule actually keeps human beings from destroying each other more than they already do!
It cancels out the bad effects of Rule #1 People Are Selfish.
Without that laziness, everybody would be Son of Sam & the BTK Killer.
They use the least energy-drawing way of showing that selfish maliciousness: insults & nasty glares.
It takes high emotion (MOTION) to drive people to do things past their lazy limits.
That's why the best way to defuse fights is to separate the participants in the passion of battle.

On #3 People Are Weak:
Even when we HAVE the energy our forms are limited in what they can do.
Human beings are less effective on their own & are forced to cooperate with others to get bigger things done.
When one individual gets too autonomous from the rest of the group, that individual has no ties to the group & won't reciprocate favors. There has to be some weakness somewhere to keep this person working with others.
The upside of tragedy is that it has a chance to bring compassion.
You gotta be weakened to care about somebody more than yourself.

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You have to balance these truths to get the most effectiveness out of a movement.
Sometimes that means moving in small groups that will have less chance for fractures.
Sometimes that means assembling a large group temporarily as a show of force.
Sometimes that means working in loosely aligned cells almost solo by solo.
But there's always a master plan & somebody manipulating, orchestrating things into being.

An organization is just a strategy of many strategies.
You can't depend on the organization itself because it's made of human beings.
It's a miracle when a music group can stay together for a decade.
Why do you expect any better from a political organization?

The truth of the matter is that Martin Luther King Jr. should not have died.
The truth of the matter is that the hippies should not have been arrested, beaten, & detained.
And for political movements to be a success, we have to get away from the martyr sacrifice mentality.
We have to review the movements of the past & see their flaws so that we can improve on them.
March on Washington was a STRATEGY & it's not the only one.
Just walking out into the streets & chanting with signs is not quite the answer to solving the problem.

The masterminds behind the movements must get smarter so that the movements get smarter, so that the movements get more effective.
We must use game theory MUCH BETTER than we're doing now.
This is a game of power & we're not using our power effectively.
That's why we sit on the sidelines & whine when they score yet another goal on us.
I'm done with HEART. It's time to get SMART.
Heart makes you feel good but what is it solving?

Media is a big piece of this puzzle & we need to monopolize media.
You see the joke Jon Stewart made about buying CNN on the Daily Show right?
It's not really a joke. Jon Stewart works through Viacom to send a powerful message.
He takes the veneer of satire parody news show & actually becomes the news!
What happens if more like him actually OWNED bigger networks to broadcast an even more powerful message?

We let these regressive assholes take over radio & look what has happened.
Remember I told you that People Are Lazy.
It takes much less energy to let someone program your thoughts & feed into your base emotions than it does to do research & check the other sides of the story.
So the antidote is to buy so many networks that these assholes don't have enough places to broadcast those bad messages.
You shape minds by bombardment.
How many anecdotes are on here with posters' family members slowly being brainwashed by Fox News & other outlets like that?
Since most people are never going to do the research on their own, you have to bombard 'em with a better message until they let YOU program their minds.
Sad to say but that's how it works.

Whatever we do it's gonna have to be ACTIVE.
This Liberal/Progressive/whatever contingent is too damn PASSIVE.
They don't have the balls to stomp the opposition.
They're waiting for the arc to bend towards justice instead of physically bending that arc towards justice themselves.
Any action they DO take is poorly thought-out & feeble.
That's why they lose or only win occasionally.

I'm taking a realistic look at people & how they work to get change done on a much larger scale much faster.
And I won't WAIT on that "liberal capitalist" to come save us, I'll BE that liberal capitalist.
ACTIVE not PASSIVE.
John Lucas

P.S.: Thanks for enduring my long rambling post.

When a stable system is broken TexasProgresive Aug 2014 #1
UNREC brooklynite Aug 2014 #2
Is your "unrec" a knee jerk response? "The notion, much less the hope, of a revolution is stupid." rhett o rick Aug 2014 #14
The other part of your commentary brooklynite Aug 2014 #20
Nah, not an "...organized plot". Just the laws of capitalism at work..... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #25
State and local police have already been militarized. And there's the National Guard and only God merrily Aug 2014 #28
You were basically under martial law during the search for Tsarnaev Lurks Often Aug 2014 #35
Yes and no. I did break off from "sheltering in place" to go out and buy lunch. merrily Aug 2014 #47
We are already there marions ghost Aug 2014 #33
Those that deny conspiracies do so because they can't handle it. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #65
Because you think I am "insinuating" conspiracy, therefore, none of what I say can be rhett o rick Aug 2014 #34
Except for the $2/hour part, ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #58
Fall back on revolution? LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #3
I would love to hear what will happen when this revolution you are referring to comes. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #16
I don't pretend to prophesy. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #19
I guess I stumbled trying to make my points. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #32
While I agree with much of what you say, LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #62
I am not saying that the police are knowingly acting on behalf of the Aristocracy. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #76
Revolution in America would look like Bad Leroy Brown pscot Aug 2014 #4
That's why you've got to arm yourselves, people... derby378 Aug 2014 #5
No, this is not how Ghandi succeeded. n/t sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #7
Gandhi succeed in getting Indian overseers and that is about it. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #12
Not true marions ghost Aug 2014 #42
Sounds nice but the actual people are sleeping under sewing machines after 16 hour shifts and TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #69
Gandhi couldn't live forever marions ghost Aug 2014 #74
It isn't an issue of immortality. It was little different at the moment. It just didn't work and TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #86
You have a false assumption about Gandhi marions ghost Sep 2014 #107
What is this false assumption? You refuse to admit that the tactics are not always workable. TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #111
Maybe you could ratchet down? marions ghost Sep 2014 #118
Oh please. former9thward Aug 2014 #23
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. LanternWaste Sep 2014 #113
India is not Singapore or Hong Kong. former9thward Sep 2014 #115
This is a very different time and a very different scenario. merrily Aug 2014 #26
Yes it is but marions ghost Aug 2014 #37
Just as an aside, Ghandi acknowledged that his ideas came from Thoreau's Civil Disobedience. merrily Aug 2014 #38
You apply it differently of course marions ghost Aug 2014 #75
That is all I am saying. merrily Aug 2014 #77
Right they have stacked the deck marions ghost Aug 2014 #78
AGREE! Great post. merrily Aug 2014 #79
thanks marions ghost Aug 2014 #91
You're welcome. merrily Sep 2014 #96
"Lose the naivete." I think a lot of the so-called "naivete" is just plain denial or cowardice. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #99
Food for thought. merrily Sep 2014 #109
I absolutely agree. But to be in denial and then to argue like you are aware is crazy. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #117
Ghandi succeeded because the British administrators in India Lurks Often Aug 2014 #40
what happened to ghandi again? i forget.... Adam051188 Sep 2014 #101
If you believe you must own guns in order to fight the US government... Electric Monk Aug 2014 #73
Those that fantisize that owning guns will protect them from a tyrannical government rhett o rick Aug 2014 #81
Yes, I am all for a velvet revolution, but there are serious problems. sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #6
Mother nature will beat us to it. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #8
Unfortunately I think you are correct. sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #10
And why we both have Warren siglines. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #11
You are soo right, sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #13
What the Aristocracy will do? Will do........... wandy Aug 2014 #9
I don't understand your calling it science fiction. Please explain. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #15
Gallows humor. wandy Aug 2014 #22
Two more chapters you can add........... wandy Aug 2014 #27
Yes, well put. I tried to explain my point better in post 32 rhett o rick Aug 2014 #41
We can always fall back on kindness bhikkhu Aug 2014 #17
In the short term, yes. merrily Aug 2014 #30
Every damn decade I hear about "The Coming Revolution..." Archae Aug 2014 #18
Godwin's Law, eh? PlanetaryOrbit Aug 2014 #21
Who cares? Who the fuck is Godwin, that he should determine what is okay for anyone to say merrily Aug 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #24
If it is simply an idea whose time has come, how is it a revolution at all? merrily Aug 2014 #43
Most people, even educated people, don't really understand the.... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #29
I don't see a socialist revolution in our future. In fact I don't see a "revolution" rhett o rick Aug 2014 #36
General strike and boycott. A massive organized economic attack is Zorra Aug 2014 #39
I agree with a lot of that. It may take longer than a week, though. merrily Aug 2014 #44
A week is just a demonstration of our power. Then we offer to negotiations. Zorra Aug 2014 #46
I thought were not supposed to negotiate with terrorists? merrily Aug 2014 #48
"There are many causes that I am prepared to die for Zorra Aug 2014 #51
Very nice. Yes, I often think of buying a bullet proof vest, but never of buying a gun. merrily Aug 2014 #67
Why not run for office and persuade people to vote for you? Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #45
Because the oligarchs have all manner of means to prevent that from happening. Zorra Aug 2014 #49
I guess the Oligarchs met and decided they didn't want Mitt Romney. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #50
No, they simply didn't care if Obama or Romney was President. Zorra Aug 2014 #54
Surely the Oligarchs would have preferred Romney to Obama, though? Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #55
Probably, but maintaining the illusion of democracy is far more important to them than Zorra Aug 2014 #61
I agree with this post and your above posts. Well put. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #68
Agreed. What the Aristocracy is doing is consolidating power in all areas, with the Zorra Aug 2014 #70
I agree that it's most likely not possible to run a candidate in the general that isn't rhett o rick Aug 2014 #72
So if you are making me guess your point then here goes: If you are saying that rhett o rick Aug 2014 #64
Agree marions ghost Aug 2014 #66
Usually the "revolution" people tend to be gun-humpers who dream of being able to finally shoot chrisa Aug 2014 #52
You left a word out XemaSab Aug 2014 #53
Actually, I've never seen someone advocate overthrowing the government who wasn't a dumb, rifle chrisa Aug 2014 #56
You misunderstood me XemaSab Aug 2014 #57
Yup I did, and agreed chrisa Aug 2014 #59
Most people sit on 840high Aug 2014 #60
We are in the midst of a revolution right now. Jesus Malverde Aug 2014 #63
John F. Kennedy's words are as true now as the day he spoke them. hifiguy Aug 2014 #71
No revolution; no violence; but when they come for them, "Will you stand up for them?" merrily Aug 2014 #80
Of course "they" have already started "coming", and they've been "coming" for the minority rhett o rick Aug 2014 #82
Very good point about police and I think that starts with Governors (state police) as merrily Aug 2014 #85
Rebellion is all that is left for us. Octafish Aug 2014 #83
Yes rebellion but not violent revolution. And for a rebellion to work we must get the rhett o rick Aug 2014 #87
Power Is Liquid. No entity is invincible johnlucas Aug 2014 #84
Something happens in this society marions ghost Aug 2014 #88
That's why I said that's the trick. johnlucas Sep 2014 #97
Nonsense post BlindTiresias Aug 2014 #89
Yeah marions ghost Aug 2014 #90
Nonsense you say? Power IS Liquid johnlucas Sep 2014 #103
Well, for starters BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #104
Not necessarily johnlucas Sep 2014 #105
Have you ever tried to start a business? marions ghost Sep 2014 #106
Not yet but I am aiming in this direction when I do johnlucas Sep 2014 #108
I admire your confidence marions ghost Sep 2014 #110
Delusional. There are no such available resources and there is no actual capitalism TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #92
No BlindTiresias Aug 2014 #94
If the Business Class runs the society, then how do you suppose that society changes? johnlucas Sep 2014 #100
We don't have the resources or the power the deck is way beyond stacked. TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #112
You're looking at the current state. I'm looking at the future state johnlucas Sep 2014 #116
I mean BlindTiresias Aug 2014 #93
Well said marions ghost Sep 2014 #95
Has Spontaneous Revolution Ever Broken Out? daredtowork Sep 2014 #98
a revolution needs a positive objective. more than one is good. Adam051188 Sep 2014 #102
I have been a saboteur in enemy territory my whole life Generic Other Sep 2014 #114
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