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17. I don't see a problem with that

Sat Oct 25, 2014, 09:28 AM

Oct 2014

What is "greatness?" Why do we need anyone "great?" We have self government of We the People. We can do it. We don't need to be "led" and indeed that system that the Founders gave us has no one leader.

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"Obama and the End of Greatness" [View all] MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 OP

Are your Ready for Mediocrity, 2016? NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #1

I can guarantee that Pres. Warren will not be mediocre. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #3

Quite the opposite, indeed! NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #4

She won't be elected Prs is 2016, so we'll never know... Adrahil Oct 2014 #19

Good question Andy823 Oct 2014 #53

Your posts often remind me of the late Bill Hicks, in a good way Electric Monk Oct 2014 #2

Oops, this is the clip I meant to post, but they're both good so I'll leave that earlier one. Electric Monk Oct 2014 #5

He's better looking and smarter than me MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #8

This looks like a good thread and I want to get in on it underpants Oct 2014 #6

Oops, here it is MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #7

The minute a President actually seems to be bringing change, Americans slam the brakes Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2014 #9

Sounds like Shesol is laying the groundwork for Clinton distancing herself. joshcryer Oct 2014 #10

Yep, the Clinton's are just all over apathy and hubris. nt bemildred Oct 2014 #11

I agree madokie Oct 2014 #12

... Scuba Oct 2014 #13

There are those who look at things the way they are, MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #14

I am glad to see we think alike. nt bemildred Oct 2014 #40

Seek immediate help MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #49

There are those who look at things the way they are and ask "How can I make a buck off it?" nt bemildred Oct 2014 #39

Hey, the Age of America is over... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #15

Don't despair Manny; history is unpredictable DerekG Oct 2014 #16

I don't see a problem with that treestar Oct 2014 #17

When were we so great to begin with? geek tragedy Oct 2014 #18

There is a persistent myth of... Adrahil Oct 2014 #21

Washington, Lincoln, FDR MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #23

You listed war time presidents. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #26

Washington and Lincoln made war. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #35

And WWII had nothing to do with his legacy geek tragedy Oct 2014 #36

In FDR's first term, unemployment halved MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #38

Fuzzy math . geek tragedy Oct 2014 #50

We need a great media more than a great president. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #20

Correction: it's not a short story, and it's written by (not about) a Clinton staffer. ucrdem Oct 2014 #22

I meant "the short story" as compared to the "long story" MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #24

Story means fiction. This is a tendentious essay, written by an interested party. nt ucrdem Oct 2014 #25

Are you deliberately being difficult? RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #30

Not in a publication that routinely publishes fiction. ucrdem Oct 2014 #31

You must not be a regular reader. RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #41

The term in the OP is "short story" and it means fiction in any context. ucrdem Oct 2014 #45

I bet you think a small businessman is a midget, too. RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #46

Well. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #34

Comes with the season, I guess RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #43

Sounds like a lame riff on "The End of History" MADem Oct 2014 #27

I don't believe the Great Man theory of history -- with one exception: RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #28

You must be a Marxist! n/t QC Oct 2014 #32

Sure! RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #44

. . .and let's not forget "Lenin", either. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2014 #54

This Esquire article does a great job describing how bollixed up we are BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #29

I believe historians will judge Obama as a truly great president awake Oct 2014 #33

You Better Believe It! n/t JTFrog Oct 2014 #37

Damn!! Beat me to it! nt msanthrope Oct 2014 #42

Ouch. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #48

I would like to think that after these mid-terms cilla4progress Oct 2014 #47

" Impeachment isn't on the table " was the end of greatness. orpupilofnature57 Oct 2014 #51

Reads like a more detailed version of the rationalizations I read right here. pa28 Oct 2014 #52