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In reply to the discussion: Anatomy of a Rat Fuck [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)31. Step 1: Call liberals "rat fuckers." Step 3: profit?
Hooboy. Yes, there's a pattern all right.
The pattern is a flurry of threads on DU equating liberal voices, liberal candidates, and -- this is a new one -- any reporting of possible election fraud (???) with "killing morale" and inevitable loss.
And liberal use of the Nixonian term "rat fucking," which of course is a rightwing idea having to do with sabotage, illegal spying, and not in any way related to insufficiently conservative Democrats.
Pretty telling that Nixon and his tactics are so top-of-mind for some people, eh? Kind of like the thief that has 12 locks on his door, maybe?
This was of course the argument Hillary acolytes raised against the Obama candidacy.
"We can't elect that fluffy liberal because pragmatism, you are all full ponies and unicorns, and oh, by the way, your opinion is RATFUCKKKINNGGGG!"
How'd that logic work out, by the way?
This new addition that anyone watching for election fraud on the part of Republicans is also a traitor / spy / rat is very interesting, though, coming from supposed Democrats.
It's already specious to claim that liberal views or liberal candidates are morale killers plotted by enemies of the Democratic Party to ensure election losses, but throwing in hate for people watching for Republican election fraud, too?
That's a very curious addition to the whole rubric.
If someone DID want to conduct some "rat fucking," by demoralizing the Democratic Party, wouldn't trying to float that idea that anyone watching for Republican dirty tricks is a traitor be a more likely tactic than say, getting Obama nominated?
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I believe just as important as these issues is how candidates turned on Obama.
olegramps
Nov 2014
#35
And make sure you throw around words like "authoritarian" and "propaganda" as much as you can...
SidDithers
Nov 2014
#4
I.E. Some of us just talk a lot, fuck that, let your VOTE do your TALKING for you! GOTV GOTV
randys1
Nov 2014
#5
On CNN, it is: interrupt any one daring to mention voter suppression efforts and lost registrations.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2014
#6
Yes - Dem non-participation only supplements/enhances Repub participation. n/t
Beartracks
Nov 2014
#66
Likely talking points concocted by Frank Luntz to suppress the Democratic vote. nt
Ykcutnek
Nov 2014
#8
OK, good....What about Bernie? And if neither are the nominee, will you work tirelessly to get
randys1
Nov 2014
#16
Me? NOt at all, I love this thread, I spend just about all day working to make sure we are all
randys1
Nov 2014
#19
That happened upthread. Don't blame a poster for defending the premise of the OP. nt
MADem
Nov 2014
#51
Go back to the post that started the thread, keeping in mind that this IS election season. nt
MADem
Nov 2014
#70
It is easy to do today, to be distracted, I have been on two non election threads myself
randys1
Nov 2014
#22
Exactly what I was doing, and have been doing here all day, trying to get people to focus
randys1
Nov 2014
#58
I said I was wrong, I posted 35 times today and mentioned 2016 once, one too many times
randys1
Nov 2014
#62
I'm sure millions of DU'ers are sitting out this election because of those "unwritten messages".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2014
#14
I've been inundated by far, far, more messages urging me to vote than any urging me not to.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2014
#26
Not only did they pat Putin on the back, they said he dinn't blow that plane up at the same time!
Major Hogwash
Nov 2014
#120
No it was meant in the "DU" sense: an attack on the "left wing" here,
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2014
#184
4. b Talk either about how you are losing or anything else that is NOT about the election
randys1
Nov 2014
#21
What do you call it when you elect them and THEY fuck you? That seems like the REAL Ratfuck. n/t
jtuck004
Nov 2014
#33
that's called "pragmatism", and you're supposed to realize "It's the best we can do"
Doctor_J
Nov 2014
#37
Yep, problems with Democratic candidates seem to get much more attention after they have won the
Chathamization
Nov 2014
#168
Letting More Rapeuglicans Win Just Forces the Democrats to Capitulate Even More
AndyTiedye
Nov 2014
#151
"repeat of 2010 where the left were encouraged to sit it out to show displease to the administration
yodermon
Nov 2014
#169
Sorry, I get sick of Democrats pretending other Democrats are depressing the vote...
beerandjesus
Nov 2014
#77
"Ratfucking" = sabotage by political operatives, and OP follows that definition
emulatorloo
Nov 2014
#99
I wasn't going to respond to you again, but since you seem sincere, and even nice...
beerandjesus
Nov 2014
#140
You realize you can wait until Wednesday and avoid hurting candidate chances, right? nt
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#81
The "You" is a general "You" for folks that are doing this. And yes, it is also DU posts that hurt
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#86
That's right. In the two months before the election, it has NOTHING to do with policy.
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#92
No.. actually I'm going to throw your words right right at you.. "Fucking pathetic. Shame on you."
Cha
Nov 2014
#126
It is funny talking about authoritarians in general and then some "DUer" shows up outraged
Rex
Nov 2014
#101
Excellent point. I don't think too many on the" left "are fratboys or sororities sisters either.
adirondacker
Nov 2014
#117
If the god damned mainstream media wasn't telling everyone that Obama sucks, and not to bother . .
Major Hogwash
Nov 2014
#134
I'm not talking about cable tv! All 3 of the corporate networks are ratfucking the Democrats!!!
Major Hogwash
Nov 2014
#178
I don't know how you can watch all that crap, it would make my blood pressure spike.
Rex
Nov 2014
#202
Well, fortunately, his audience is a bunch of sour grapes jerks that think he is holier than Obama.
Major Hogwash
Nov 2014
#139
Yes, Tavis Smiley does have his fans who are all as sour graped as he is and believe the nonsense he
Cha
Nov 2014
#141
Completely wrong. I expect to keep the Senate, increase our numbers in the House, and win
FSogol
Nov 2014
#129
that's right: 1. it's doing pre-blaming, 2. it's also pre-credit-taking (if the election goes well,
MisterP
Nov 2014
#163
Good analysis. We can't afford to be fooled again. And again. And again. Since Nixon...
freshwest
Nov 2014
#130
Bullshit. Nothing but an attempt to stiffle dissent and defer blame. The OP has recorded 5000
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#144
So you think calling dissenters "rat fuckers" is a way to get out the vote? Sure, sure. just like
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#152
Furthermore, it is EXACTLY your, "if you can't beat them, join them" attitude that is turning
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#154
fuck that lazy ass purity bullshit, it's a way to prevent change and defend
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#187
Damn it. Very sorry. Don't want to drag you into this, but thanks for supporting my point...
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#231
By your standards, racial slurs aren't a problem as long as you don't appear too racial. And
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#188
here you go, calling liberals "fucking retarded" was part of Rahm's GOTV campaign of 2010
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#189
Dude. You were banned for 3rd party advocacy when you posted as scentopine...
SidDithers
Nov 2014
#191
and they claim to be about principles, conscience, and taking any other moral high
JI7
Nov 2014
#219
Stop harrassing me. Stop personal attacks against me. Your emotional outbursts disturbing.
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#229
Did you just call fellow Dems concerned about voting machine procedures Rat Fucks?
philly_bob
Nov 2014
#200
This OP is nothing but a giant Strawman aimed at disparaging the Left at election time.
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#222
They have made their contempt for the Democratic Party clear for well over a year now
BainsBane
Nov 2014
#237