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bvar22

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10. Bad News.

Reply to Samantha (Original post)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:56 PM

Nov 2014

If they can't sell that shit to China,
they will find a way to make us eat it.

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Now we are starting to hear from China: "We don't want your dirty tar sands oil" [View all] Samantha Nov 2014 OP

This story is far from over Hekate Nov 2014 #1

They have been dancing around the issue of the literal legislative vote Samantha Nov 2014 #2

Excellent point, and same with Canada, where federal elections are a year away. Congress votes Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #5

Naomi Kline made another excellent comment Samantha Nov 2014 #7

Yep, Andy823 Nov 2014 #12

If the president does not sign a bill, it almost always becomes law 10 days after passage. tritsofme Nov 2014 #18

If Congress adjourns before the 10 days, the bill fails, it's often called a 'pocket veto'... Spazito Nov 2014 #22

The timing of the Landrieu's December 6th runoff make a pocket veto strategy very unlikely tritsofme Nov 2014 #25

Bringing a bill before the Senate for a vote doesn't necessarily mean a vote takes place... Spazito Nov 2014 #27

If that's the case, then Obama might as well just veto. tritsofme Nov 2014 #28

He may well do a straight up veto as opposed to a pocket veto, I suspect he will... Spazito Nov 2014 #31

I think all of the talk about what happens by the legislature is a moot point Samantha Nov 2014 #45

The media is playing this up as if it is a strategy to help Landrieu win her runoff Samantha Nov 2014 #36

It's Landrieu's strategy, she seems to think it will help her. tritsofme Nov 2014 #41

Okay, so it was her idea .... Samantha Nov 2014 #42

I think this is different because it falls within that unique category Samantha Nov 2014 #34

If there are constitutional issues with the bill, that would have to be resolved in the courts tritsofme Nov 2014 #37

I have been doing a lot of research on this and it is clear this pipeline has to have Presidential Samantha Nov 2014 #43

To reach the goals agreed to by 2030 China can no longer afford tar sands oil. Well played, Obama. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #3

Good point, Fred Sanders Samantha Nov 2014 #16

Good for China. I've seen pictures of air pollution over there and it is terrible. Tar sands oil Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #4

I visited Bejing...June 2003? ... 2PM... I could look directly into the sun HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #11

Not too mention... Xolodno Nov 2014 #6

Isn't it just too wonderful? If it doesn't happen, the Koch Brothers would lose Samantha Nov 2014 #8

That sounds like a lot, but for the Kochs $100,000,000 is about 2 days investment earnings Electric Monk Nov 2014 #19

I guess we will just have to take our consolation in the fact they are making no money Samantha Nov 2014 #38

I think a bigger consolation would be if the oil sands stop polluting the fuck out of the north. Electric Monk Nov 2014 #39

It is possible he did, great move too, a shiv to both the GOP and the Koch Bros. IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #9

That is what I was thinking -- a polite but deadly maneuver Samantha Nov 2014 #13

Bad News. bvar22 Nov 2014 #10

He's been stalling them for years, now it's come to a head. Bush wanted it in 2007. freshwest Nov 2014 #14

This is great you posted all this information and/or history Samantha Nov 2014 #17

Thanks. I didn't post it in GD at the time as many were mixing up apples and oranges. freshwest Nov 2014 #21

When this controversy first erupted, one of the Ivy League law schools had someone Samantha Nov 2014 #32

Thanks, I also heard the figure 50 on the jobs, as well. You did great, hope you saved the links. freshwest Nov 2014 #33

It appears plain that the Legislative Branch cannot approve the Keystone Pipeline Samantha Nov 2014 #44

China is already involved with Canada for tar sands oil. L0oniX Nov 2014 #15

Ka-Ching . . . It's a Greenwash Strelnikov_ Nov 2014 #30

This is fascinating Samantha Nov 2014 #40

Keystone XL doesn't exist anymore. Eridenus Nov 2014 #20

Keystone XL certainly does still exist... Spazito Nov 2014 #23

Right, and Harper is already under stress to dump Keystone XL Eridenus Nov 2014 #24

There is no coalition in the Harper's government... Spazito Nov 2014 #29

One thing I have to ask DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #26

I remember reading when she left the State Department she left the application on her desk Samantha Nov 2014 #35