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99. No, just understanding lives of working people

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almost 5k raised for man who confronted protestors in San Diego [View all] Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 OP

This person needs a history lesson NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #1

No, what he needs is to get to work so he can support his family, not having to wait GGJohn Nov 2014 #9

What he needs is another donation from me yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Nov 2014 #111

He has my full admiration. 840high Nov 2014 #112

The guy obviously doesn't understand that it is NOT okay that he needs 3 jobs Live and Learn Nov 2014 #2

Unfortunately, you can't pay rent with understanding. arcane1 Nov 2014 #6

I am sympathetic to him to. But there comes a time when society must stop Live and Learn Nov 2014 #10

Punishing low-wage earners isn't going to "fight back" against any corporatist. arcane1 Nov 2014 #14

Well then here's an idea: Live and Learn Nov 2014 #16

The real world doesn't operate the way your fantasy does. arcane1 Nov 2014 #17

The "real world" LOL... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #126

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #138

+2 nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #199

Actually, it does. He didn't get fired. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #139

Easier solution, don't block freeways causing working people to be late. GGJohn Nov 2014 #18

And what does that solution provide exactly? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #140

Getting those that might be sympathetic to your cause pissed off at you isn't the solution either. GGJohn Nov 2014 #212

here's an idea backwoodsbob Nov 2014 #34

And exactly how would one go about that? How do you propose to stop Live and Learn Nov 2014 #141

What racism, police brutality, and corporate takeover was stopped on Interstate 5 the other day? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #169

We'll see. It is after all just a start. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #178

In fact, spoiled college students punishing low-wage earners is a slap in the face to the worker Wella Nov 2014 #30

'Spoiled college students'? Really?? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #143

Did you read the entire post or just react to the title? Wella Nov 2014 #207

I read your post LeftOfWest Nov 2014 #214

So name a way to fight back.... daleanime Nov 2014 #33

People protest here on the side of the road all the time. arcane1 Nov 2014 #38

And some like will change what needs to be changed? daleanime Nov 2014 #40

It won't. Not until it's big enough, anyway. Hell millions of us failed to stop Iraq. arcane1 Nov 2014 #47

Do you think any thing we do against TPTB..... daleanime Nov 2014 #162

I imagine you were also concerned about negative PR and bad branding when the protesters in... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #219

How did that work out? arcane1 Dec 2014 #223

How about block the entrance to the gated communities where the bosses live. OnlinePoker Nov 2014 #117

Or block the driveway to the Police Station. Dr. Strange Nov 2014 #120

They have been doing that. Actually, the police in Ferguson did that themselves. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #144

Actually, it will just get you arrested quickly. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #145

And of course no one goes in there to work.... daleanime Nov 2014 #158

Sure it will, one only must be relentless and single minded in pursuit of shutting down commerce. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #80

Did Martin Luther King ever block a freeway? former9thward Nov 2014 #119

I did not reference Dr King, I stated that the tactic could be effective for creating TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #132

Blocking a factory may be effective when workers are on strike. former9thward Nov 2014 #154

I did not speak to inflaming anyone or not, I said the tactic could be effective in creating pain TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #213

Here he is blocking a highway. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #190

Actually no, it was a officially sanctioned march on a street. former9thward Nov 2014 #204

Still blocking a highway and they marched down many streets not always Live and Learn Nov 2014 #205

It was no more blocking a street than the Macy's parade in New York. former9thward Nov 2014 #206

Already answered but keep posting away. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #210

have we learned anything from this thread yet snooper2 Dec 2014 #220

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #146

Excellent observation(s). The protesters need to start thinking like capitalists (not behaving KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #151

Do you have a job? Why can't the protesters have a little understanding? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #68

Yes I do and I understand the protests as well. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #71

Where is you sympathy for those going to work, etc? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #82

I never take the freeways since they are almost guaranteed to make one late. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #85

Let's put it this way, I have never been late to work because of protesters on the Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #91

If that is your criteria for picking sides, there really isn't much hope. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #92

Now you are getting it. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #96

I always understood there wasn't much hope for some people. Glad to see Live and Learn Nov 2014 #103

BTW, did you have $5000 donated to you today? if you did not perhaps you are on the wrong side. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #108

lol Now there is some convoluted thinking. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #147

Officer Wilson got $400k. Winning!!!!! I oppose anarchy!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #157

Ah, spoken with all the resonance of someone with time to spend diddling on the internet . . . Journeyman Nov 2014 #7

A fellow diddler I see. But you support his right to have to work 3 jobs Live and Learn Nov 2014 #8

He has a right to feed his kids AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #69

Where did I say he didn't? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #72

Pretty much from the top to the bottom of this thread AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #109

Nope, never did. Reading comprehension problem, perhaps? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #148

It is implied AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #196

Oh, you are assuming. I was taught not to do that. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #197

This message was self-deleted by its author Journeyman Nov 2014 #156

how do you know he doesn't understand that ? JI7 Nov 2014 #48

+1 tammywammy Nov 2014 #51

+10 840high Nov 2014 #202

Because he wouldn't be yelling at them if he did. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #56

why ? I get angry or disagree over things people do JI7 Nov 2014 #64

To get that upset by being late to work on one occasion in CA Live and Learn Nov 2014 #94

No, just understanding lives of working people JI7 Nov 2014 #99

Funny, I am one of those and it doesn't upset me. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #102

do you make shoes? snooper2 Dec 2014 #221

I don't think it'll matter what he should be doing when his family can't afford their food. chrisa Nov 2014 #84

Do you really believe the guys family is going to starve over this one incident? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #87

Yes. And I'm sure he won't exactly support the protests when he gets fired for being late chrisa Nov 2014 #90

Let me relieve your worries then, He didn't get fired. Rest well. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #149

That doesn't make what they did ok. He could have been fired chrisa Nov 2014 #161

Your concerns have been duly noted and posted on frequently in this thread. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #163

If you have to accuse someone of being a concern troll, you've already lost the argument. chrisa Nov 2014 #192

Not accusing you of anything. Just noting that your concerns Live and Learn Nov 2014 #195

His boss understood. 840high Nov 2014 #113

He doesn't need a 'history lesson' NashuaDW Nov 2014 #3

there are ferguson protests all over the country noiretextatique Nov 2014 #5

If you think this is just about Missouri, you really don't get it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #11

What is it about if it's not about the Ferguson case? Wella Nov 2014 #28

Inequity, in a nutshell. Both of the judicial and financial institutions. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #35

Isn't that Occupy? If so, are these protests just a resurgence of Occupy? Wella Nov 2014 #36

Occupy was just a beginning. This is another upstart. There will be more before Live and Learn Nov 2014 #42

Do you have evidence that the police set the fires? Wella Nov 2014 #45

I am hoping that the one guy we were watching who got his camera stolen somehow ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #52

That was Bassem (who spent Thanksgiving in jail). Live and Learn Nov 2014 #59

You could see it (the police car) catch fire as they were setting them ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #60

No, he was arrested later while in the back seat of a car for driving with a suspended license Live and Learn Nov 2014 #65

Yes. My question about the camera was tongue in cheek. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #78

I'll have to check on whether there is videotape of it but Live and Learn Nov 2014 #54

I'm very interested in this Wella Nov 2014 #62

Then view the links I provided. Bassem's links (posted above) are good to view too. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #67

Isn't Bassem a major anti-Semite, or have I been misinformed? Wella Nov 2014 #208

I think he just believes the Palestinians are being wronged. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #209

No. Wella Nov 2014 #211

The fact that he must work 3 jobs proves it has something to do with the inequality the protests are uppityperson Nov 2014 #88

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #95

+2 nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #200

I'd be mad too. Protest on the sides of the freeway entrances but no need to block jillan Nov 2014 #4

You mean protests where nobody will notice them? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #12

Now you're resorting to using rhetorical tricks to make their post seem absurd. arcane1 Nov 2014 #15

The freeways in California are shut down all the time, Live and Learn Nov 2014 #19

"if you don't want to be late in CA. Don't take the freeways" G_j Nov 2014 #23

Agree. I want to yell at cops having their post accident coffee clutch after.... Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #110

No kidding. Anyone in CA that gets that pissed off at being stuck on a freeway Live and Learn Nov 2014 #134

I was born and raised in L.A. County, and have driven CA freeways for 37 years. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #179

So that makes you an expert on "shit"? I'll take your word for it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #182

Nope. What it does is qualifies me to tell the world post #19 is an overflowing bag of shit. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #184

Hard to argue with logic like that. Have a great day. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #188

That's not what I'm saying. Protest were you can be seen but let people go on with their daily lives jillan Nov 2014 #20

I think making people uncomfortable is the idea. You know, Live and Learn Nov 2014 #21

Except they are making the wrong people uncomfortable, sadly. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #26

Yes. it is unfortunate that those that suffer during unrest the most are the Live and Learn Nov 2014 #31

They are not the ones who suffer the most. They are the only ones who suffer. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #39

Well, I don't see it that way. And I have been stuck on the freeway often enough to Live and Learn Nov 2014 #46

Possibly because you're here telling me this... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #50

Didn't you question me first? I don't think I am the one judging. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #73

I posted the other ideas, while not judging you but judging the idea ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #77

I don't think I suggested any such thing. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #101

... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #166

I stand by that. I didn't accuse you of not participating in any Live and Learn Nov 2014 #172

Word. Texasgal Nov 2014 #189

No, making people empathetic to the cause should be the idea FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #29

Deja vu? Didn't we just discuss this below? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #74

Hell, I'd wager that even today more Americans support KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #164

I did - that's why I donated to him. 840high Nov 2014 #203

Afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. n/t ChazII Nov 2014 #159

Based on opinions around my town, the protesters have lost most of the public sympathies. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #13

If your moniker is accurate, I sincerely doubt if most of the people in your town Live and Learn Nov 2014 #27

But these are the people that need to be convinced FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #32

And how do you get them to empathize when they listen to corporate sponsored Live and Learn Nov 2014 #37

You make the protest focus on changing minds. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #43

They have done that. Exactly, how long are they supposed to wait for minds to change? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #49

It takes time. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #58

I am not advocating anything. I just understand why they are doing what they are doing. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #61

You didn't answer my question. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #66

The protests started with that approach and those approaches are still going on. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #70

We may disagree on approach. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #86

Like I said, if there are better ideas out there, I'd be happy to hear them. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #89

I posted other ideas FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #100

And I told you those had been tried. They don't work. Period. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #104

You don't want any ideas apparently. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #115

Once again, they tried those tactics. They don't work. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #122

By the way, you might be interested to know that they are Live and Learn Nov 2014 #106

If the message is that important... MadDAsHell Nov 2014 #22

...^ that 840high Nov 2014 #116

So you don't think the message is important? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #123

I agree people haven't been listening...but that's our fault. MadDAsHell Nov 2014 #216

Eric Garner had 5 or 6 kids to feed. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #24

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #25

Do you really think the average person, trying to get to work, give a damn about Eric Garner? GGJohn Nov 2014 #41

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #55

Blocking a highway does more bad then good yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #63

It is not all about Ferguson. I can't believe you don't understand that. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #75

I don't think anything will change the mind of some people. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #76

These interstate blocking protests are self-defeating idiocy. LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #44

And what do you suggest would be abetter alternative? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #79

I'm confused -- I thought the protest was against police violence? brooklynite Nov 2014 #53

Really??? You seriously don't get it? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #81

is the guy in the open part of the 1 percent JI7 Nov 2014 #121

Maybe, if he can afford 6 children in California. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #130

What a dumb way to protest chrisa Nov 2014 #83

Here's how it works: petronius Nov 2014 #93

Protesting the murder of black people must be meek and polite and considerate at all times Scootaloo Nov 2014 #107

+1 Yep, and people will magically get it then. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #124

That's a strawman and false dilemma. chrisa Nov 2014 #160

There have been many different kind of protests. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #165

This thread is about this protest, which is not a good way to protest. chrisa Nov 2014 #167

Provided they stay on the sidewalk, right? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #173

No, it's exacly what's being expressed here Scootaloo Nov 2014 #187

Wouldn't inconveniencing the people who are actually abusing human rights make more sense? chrisa Nov 2014 #193

Did he get fired? Iggo Nov 2014 #97

No. 840high Nov 2014 #118

Of course not. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #125

This is how you block traffic! RandiFan1290 Nov 2014 #98

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #127

Look at all these DU'ers missing the entire fucking point of protest Scootaloo Nov 2014 #105

Are they democrats, they sure arent liberals...maybe this place is infested with rightwingers NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #114

No one here gets to decide how liberal another person is. Sorry. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #168

It never fails to warm my heart; seeing people who've been here FOUR DAYS judging DUers... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #181

Lots of folk here defending Wilson, I dont consider a single one of them liberal NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #183

Exactly! nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #128

A picket line strikes directly at the problem though, doesn't it? petronius Nov 2014 #129

This 'problem' isn't confined to one place. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #131

And the protest in question doesn't strike at this problem, here, there, nor anywhere... (nt) petronius Nov 2014 #135

Really? I got it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #137

Not accordin to the logic expressed on this thread. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #142

You need to reread this entire thread, then, including my posts, because you petronius Nov 2014 #150

If I were you I would right this injustice an picket the picketers. Here are some ideas: Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #153

Oh, snap! - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #171

it wasn't an analogy. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #155

I have never eaten a Dorito in my life... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #170

Now I am really confused. Who accused you of eating a Dorito? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #176

Follow along. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #177

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that was a personal attack on you. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #180

I didn't say it was an attack on me. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #185

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #174

Scabs was the first thing that came to my mind. MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #133

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #136

This confrontation pains me deeply. This man is so wrong... mountain grammy Nov 2014 #152

Thank you. Wonderful to see someone get it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #175

The first link in your OP has a very right-wing, authoritarian KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #186

If you protest on the freeway does it drive the point faster? n/t miyazaki Nov 2014 #191

The discussion in this thread is very similar... Socal31 Nov 2014 #194

It seems to me that many of the same people that were determined to see Occupy Live and Learn Nov 2014 #198

The minute you have to "tie together" issues for the public... Socal31 Nov 2014 #201

update 10k raised Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 #215

update. amount raised up to 15K - lots of controvery on the go fund site about how to spend $$ Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #217

Good for Mr. Landrum. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #218

Good. Entitled asshole UCSD kids have no business shutting streets down. nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #222