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Scootaloo

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187. No, it's exacly what's being expressed here

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:25 PM

Nov 2014

And if you have to ask nicely to get people on your side on the issue that killing black people is wrong, then you've fucking lost already.

This isn't protesting over a new sidewalk being installed in your favorite park, chrisa. it's protest over abuse of human lives.

My suggestion? Go out spend some time with the protestors. See what's going through their heads, hear their opinions and logic and arguments.

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almost 5k raised for man who confronted protestors in San Diego [View all] Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 OP

This person needs a history lesson NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #1

No, what he needs is to get to work so he can support his family, not having to wait GGJohn Nov 2014 #9

What he needs is another donation from me yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Nov 2014 #111

He has my full admiration. 840high Nov 2014 #112

The guy obviously doesn't understand that it is NOT okay that he needs 3 jobs Live and Learn Nov 2014 #2

Unfortunately, you can't pay rent with understanding. arcane1 Nov 2014 #6

I am sympathetic to him to. But there comes a time when society must stop Live and Learn Nov 2014 #10

Punishing low-wage earners isn't going to "fight back" against any corporatist. arcane1 Nov 2014 #14

Well then here's an idea: Live and Learn Nov 2014 #16

The real world doesn't operate the way your fantasy does. arcane1 Nov 2014 #17

The "real world" LOL... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #126

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #138

+2 nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #199

Actually, it does. He didn't get fired. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #139

Easier solution, don't block freeways causing working people to be late. GGJohn Nov 2014 #18

And what does that solution provide exactly? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #140

Getting those that might be sympathetic to your cause pissed off at you isn't the solution either. GGJohn Nov 2014 #212

here's an idea backwoodsbob Nov 2014 #34

And exactly how would one go about that? How do you propose to stop Live and Learn Nov 2014 #141

What racism, police brutality, and corporate takeover was stopped on Interstate 5 the other day? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #169

We'll see. It is after all just a start. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #178

In fact, spoiled college students punishing low-wage earners is a slap in the face to the worker Wella Nov 2014 #30

'Spoiled college students'? Really?? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #143

Did you read the entire post or just react to the title? Wella Nov 2014 #207

I read your post LeftOfWest Nov 2014 #214

So name a way to fight back.... daleanime Nov 2014 #33

People protest here on the side of the road all the time. arcane1 Nov 2014 #38

And some like will change what needs to be changed? daleanime Nov 2014 #40

It won't. Not until it's big enough, anyway. Hell millions of us failed to stop Iraq. arcane1 Nov 2014 #47

Do you think any thing we do against TPTB..... daleanime Nov 2014 #162

I imagine you were also concerned about negative PR and bad branding when the protesters in... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #219

How did that work out? arcane1 Dec 2014 #223

How about block the entrance to the gated communities where the bosses live. OnlinePoker Nov 2014 #117

Or block the driveway to the Police Station. Dr. Strange Nov 2014 #120

They have been doing that. Actually, the police in Ferguson did that themselves. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #144

Actually, it will just get you arrested quickly. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #145

And of course no one goes in there to work.... daleanime Nov 2014 #158

Sure it will, one only must be relentless and single minded in pursuit of shutting down commerce. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #80

Did Martin Luther King ever block a freeway? former9thward Nov 2014 #119

I did not reference Dr King, I stated that the tactic could be effective for creating TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #132

Blocking a factory may be effective when workers are on strike. former9thward Nov 2014 #154

I did not speak to inflaming anyone or not, I said the tactic could be effective in creating pain TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #213

Here he is blocking a highway. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #190

Actually no, it was a officially sanctioned march on a street. former9thward Nov 2014 #204

Still blocking a highway and they marched down many streets not always Live and Learn Nov 2014 #205

It was no more blocking a street than the Macy's parade in New York. former9thward Nov 2014 #206

Already answered but keep posting away. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #210

have we learned anything from this thread yet snooper2 Dec 2014 #220

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #146

Excellent observation(s). The protesters need to start thinking like capitalists (not behaving KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #151

Do you have a job? Why can't the protesters have a little understanding? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #68

Yes I do and I understand the protests as well. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #71

Where is you sympathy for those going to work, etc? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #82

I never take the freeways since they are almost guaranteed to make one late. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #85

Let's put it this way, I have never been late to work because of protesters on the Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #91

If that is your criteria for picking sides, there really isn't much hope. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #92

Now you are getting it. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #96

I always understood there wasn't much hope for some people. Glad to see Live and Learn Nov 2014 #103

BTW, did you have $5000 donated to you today? if you did not perhaps you are on the wrong side. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #108

lol Now there is some convoluted thinking. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #147

Officer Wilson got $400k. Winning!!!!! I oppose anarchy!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #157

Ah, spoken with all the resonance of someone with time to spend diddling on the internet . . . Journeyman Nov 2014 #7

A fellow diddler I see. But you support his right to have to work 3 jobs Live and Learn Nov 2014 #8

He has a right to feed his kids AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #69

Where did I say he didn't? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #72

Pretty much from the top to the bottom of this thread AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #109

Nope, never did. Reading comprehension problem, perhaps? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #148

It is implied AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #196

Oh, you are assuming. I was taught not to do that. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #197

This message was self-deleted by its author Journeyman Nov 2014 #156

how do you know he doesn't understand that ? JI7 Nov 2014 #48

+1 tammywammy Nov 2014 #51

+10 840high Nov 2014 #202

Because he wouldn't be yelling at them if he did. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #56

why ? I get angry or disagree over things people do JI7 Nov 2014 #64

To get that upset by being late to work on one occasion in CA Live and Learn Nov 2014 #94

No, just understanding lives of working people JI7 Nov 2014 #99

Funny, I am one of those and it doesn't upset me. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #102

do you make shoes? snooper2 Dec 2014 #221

I don't think it'll matter what he should be doing when his family can't afford their food. chrisa Nov 2014 #84

Do you really believe the guys family is going to starve over this one incident? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #87

Yes. And I'm sure he won't exactly support the protests when he gets fired for being late chrisa Nov 2014 #90

Let me relieve your worries then, He didn't get fired. Rest well. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #149

That doesn't make what they did ok. He could have been fired chrisa Nov 2014 #161

Your concerns have been duly noted and posted on frequently in this thread. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #163

If you have to accuse someone of being a concern troll, you've already lost the argument. chrisa Nov 2014 #192

Not accusing you of anything. Just noting that your concerns Live and Learn Nov 2014 #195

His boss understood. 840high Nov 2014 #113

He doesn't need a 'history lesson' NashuaDW Nov 2014 #3

there are ferguson protests all over the country noiretextatique Nov 2014 #5

If you think this is just about Missouri, you really don't get it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #11

What is it about if it's not about the Ferguson case? Wella Nov 2014 #28

Inequity, in a nutshell. Both of the judicial and financial institutions. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #35

Isn't that Occupy? If so, are these protests just a resurgence of Occupy? Wella Nov 2014 #36

Occupy was just a beginning. This is another upstart. There will be more before Live and Learn Nov 2014 #42

Do you have evidence that the police set the fires? Wella Nov 2014 #45

I am hoping that the one guy we were watching who got his camera stolen somehow ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #52

That was Bassem (who spent Thanksgiving in jail). Live and Learn Nov 2014 #59

You could see it (the police car) catch fire as they were setting them ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #60

No, he was arrested later while in the back seat of a car for driving with a suspended license Live and Learn Nov 2014 #65

Yes. My question about the camera was tongue in cheek. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #78

I'll have to check on whether there is videotape of it but Live and Learn Nov 2014 #54

I'm very interested in this Wella Nov 2014 #62

Then view the links I provided. Bassem's links (posted above) are good to view too. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #67

Isn't Bassem a major anti-Semite, or have I been misinformed? Wella Nov 2014 #208

I think he just believes the Palestinians are being wronged. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #209

No. Wella Nov 2014 #211

The fact that he must work 3 jobs proves it has something to do with the inequality the protests are uppityperson Nov 2014 #88

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #95

+2 nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #200

I'd be mad too. Protest on the sides of the freeway entrances but no need to block jillan Nov 2014 #4

You mean protests where nobody will notice them? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #12

Now you're resorting to using rhetorical tricks to make their post seem absurd. arcane1 Nov 2014 #15

The freeways in California are shut down all the time, Live and Learn Nov 2014 #19

"if you don't want to be late in CA. Don't take the freeways" G_j Nov 2014 #23

Agree. I want to yell at cops having their post accident coffee clutch after.... Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #110

No kidding. Anyone in CA that gets that pissed off at being stuck on a freeway Live and Learn Nov 2014 #134

I was born and raised in L.A. County, and have driven CA freeways for 37 years. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #179

So that makes you an expert on "shit"? I'll take your word for it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #182

Nope. What it does is qualifies me to tell the world post #19 is an overflowing bag of shit. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #184

Hard to argue with logic like that. Have a great day. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #188

That's not what I'm saying. Protest were you can be seen but let people go on with their daily lives jillan Nov 2014 #20

I think making people uncomfortable is the idea. You know, Live and Learn Nov 2014 #21

Except they are making the wrong people uncomfortable, sadly. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #26

Yes. it is unfortunate that those that suffer during unrest the most are the Live and Learn Nov 2014 #31

They are not the ones who suffer the most. They are the only ones who suffer. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #39

Well, I don't see it that way. And I have been stuck on the freeway often enough to Live and Learn Nov 2014 #46

Possibly because you're here telling me this... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #50

Didn't you question me first? I don't think I am the one judging. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #73

I posted the other ideas, while not judging you but judging the idea ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #77

I don't think I suggested any such thing. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #101

... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #166

I stand by that. I didn't accuse you of not participating in any Live and Learn Nov 2014 #172

Word. Texasgal Nov 2014 #189

No, making people empathetic to the cause should be the idea FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #29

Deja vu? Didn't we just discuss this below? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #74

Hell, I'd wager that even today more Americans support KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #164

I did - that's why I donated to him. 840high Nov 2014 #203

Afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. n/t ChazII Nov 2014 #159

Based on opinions around my town, the protesters have lost most of the public sympathies. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #13

If your moniker is accurate, I sincerely doubt if most of the people in your town Live and Learn Nov 2014 #27

But these are the people that need to be convinced FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #32

And how do you get them to empathize when they listen to corporate sponsored Live and Learn Nov 2014 #37

You make the protest focus on changing minds. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #43

They have done that. Exactly, how long are they supposed to wait for minds to change? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #49

It takes time. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #58

I am not advocating anything. I just understand why they are doing what they are doing. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #61

You didn't answer my question. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #66

The protests started with that approach and those approaches are still going on. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #70

We may disagree on approach. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #86

Like I said, if there are better ideas out there, I'd be happy to hear them. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #89

I posted other ideas FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #100

And I told you those had been tried. They don't work. Period. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #104

You don't want any ideas apparently. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #115

Once again, they tried those tactics. They don't work. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #122

By the way, you might be interested to know that they are Live and Learn Nov 2014 #106

If the message is that important... MadDAsHell Nov 2014 #22

...^ that 840high Nov 2014 #116

So you don't think the message is important? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #123

I agree people haven't been listening...but that's our fault. MadDAsHell Nov 2014 #216

Eric Garner had 5 or 6 kids to feed. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #24

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #25

Do you really think the average person, trying to get to work, give a damn about Eric Garner? GGJohn Nov 2014 #41

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #55

Blocking a highway does more bad then good yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #63

It is not all about Ferguson. I can't believe you don't understand that. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #75

I don't think anything will change the mind of some people. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #76

These interstate blocking protests are self-defeating idiocy. LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #44

And what do you suggest would be abetter alternative? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #79

I'm confused -- I thought the protest was against police violence? brooklynite Nov 2014 #53

Really??? You seriously don't get it? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #81

is the guy in the open part of the 1 percent JI7 Nov 2014 #121

Maybe, if he can afford 6 children in California. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #130

What a dumb way to protest chrisa Nov 2014 #83

Here's how it works: petronius Nov 2014 #93

Protesting the murder of black people must be meek and polite and considerate at all times Scootaloo Nov 2014 #107

+1 Yep, and people will magically get it then. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #124

That's a strawman and false dilemma. chrisa Nov 2014 #160

There have been many different kind of protests. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #165

This thread is about this protest, which is not a good way to protest. chrisa Nov 2014 #167

Provided they stay on the sidewalk, right? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #173

No, it's exacly what's being expressed here Scootaloo Nov 2014 #187

Wouldn't inconveniencing the people who are actually abusing human rights make more sense? chrisa Nov 2014 #193

Did he get fired? Iggo Nov 2014 #97

No. 840high Nov 2014 #118

Of course not. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #125

This is how you block traffic! RandiFan1290 Nov 2014 #98

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #127

Look at all these DU'ers missing the entire fucking point of protest Scootaloo Nov 2014 #105

Are they democrats, they sure arent liberals...maybe this place is infested with rightwingers NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #114

No one here gets to decide how liberal another person is. Sorry. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #168

It never fails to warm my heart; seeing people who've been here FOUR DAYS judging DUers... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #181

Lots of folk here defending Wilson, I dont consider a single one of them liberal NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #183

Exactly! nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #128

A picket line strikes directly at the problem though, doesn't it? petronius Nov 2014 #129

This 'problem' isn't confined to one place. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #131

And the protest in question doesn't strike at this problem, here, there, nor anywhere... (nt) petronius Nov 2014 #135

Really? I got it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #137

Not accordin to the logic expressed on this thread. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #142

You need to reread this entire thread, then, including my posts, because you petronius Nov 2014 #150

If I were you I would right this injustice an picket the picketers. Here are some ideas: Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #153

Oh, snap! - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #171

it wasn't an analogy. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #155

I have never eaten a Dorito in my life... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #170

Now I am really confused. Who accused you of eating a Dorito? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #176

Follow along. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #177

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that was a personal attack on you. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #180

I didn't say it was an attack on me. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #185

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #174

Scabs was the first thing that came to my mind. MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #133

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #136

This confrontation pains me deeply. This man is so wrong... mountain grammy Nov 2014 #152

Thank you. Wonderful to see someone get it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #175

The first link in your OP has a very right-wing, authoritarian KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #186

If you protest on the freeway does it drive the point faster? n/t miyazaki Nov 2014 #191

The discussion in this thread is very similar... Socal31 Nov 2014 #194

It seems to me that many of the same people that were determined to see Occupy Live and Learn Nov 2014 #198

The minute you have to "tie together" issues for the public... Socal31 Nov 2014 #201

update 10k raised Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 #215

update. amount raised up to 15K - lots of controvery on the go fund site about how to spend $$ Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #217

Good for Mr. Landrum. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #218

Good. Entitled asshole UCSD kids have no business shutting streets down. nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #222