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26. Well we've heard that for over a decade now, and apparently it isn't working. So how about

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:59 PM

Dec 2014

a change of tactics? Even in sports when a team is losing they bring in a new coach or something. Because the ones we have are not doing to well. Maybe it's time to change the leadership and get some fresh thinkers in there rather than the same old 'we have WIN, and our only way of winning to be something we are not'. Maybe voters prefer a Real Republican over Republican lite? Maybe they might prefer an honest working class Dem who is proud to be a Dem proud of what the Party did for the working class when it was the party of the working class.

Too many think tanks and stratigists issuing proclamations, most of which seem to be wrong, rather than real people who know what they are talking about because they are in touch with real people.

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And now, the Senate. Which Democrats actually won and lost? [View all] Recursion Dec 2014 OP

Hagan a liberal? Thanks for letting this NC'er know. mmonk Dec 2014 #1

Sorry, I misread her DREAM vote. Recursion Dec 2014 #2

She is pro-choice, marriage equality, and luke warm mmonk Dec 2014 #5

I would be interested in finding out what your definition of "liberal" is. W_HAMILTON Dec 2014 #3

Udall? Begich? Recursion Dec 2014 #4

Begich was one of the few Democrats that thwarted gun-control legislation after Newtown. W_HAMILTON Dec 2014 #7

Well Begich sure as hell didn't lose Alaska over being too anti-gun-control (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #9

No, but he sure as hell didn't win because of it, either. W_HAMILTON Dec 2014 #15

Udall is associated with the Third Way. joshcryer Dec 2014 #21

Thanks, I've been scratching my head too wondering what the definition of 'liberal' is. I suppose sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #22

Begich is pretty liberal on most social issues, Blue_In_AK Dec 2014 #25

It seems to be mostly about the so-called "cultural" issues. merrily Dec 2014 #28

you're approaching this the wrong way wyldwolf Dec 2014 #6

Running alternatives to right wing messaging mmonk Dec 2014 #10

you say that as if it's true wyldwolf Dec 2014 #14

Sure there is, at least in my state which is now mmonk Dec 2014 #16

If your state is now gerrymandered rightwing, it is no longer a blue area wyldwolf Dec 2014 #17

Are there any real world Progressives being supported by the Dem Party running in those states sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #23

That's a loaded question wyldwolf Dec 2014 #46

I'm not associated with the 'netroots' so don't know what you are talking about. Never sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #47

You've gotten way off track in your reply wyldwolf Dec 2014 #48

People who support and vote for right wing policies, such as cutting SS benefits eg, are simply sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #50

Says who? wyldwolf Dec 2014 #51

We are losing the white vote in the South. Rex Dec 2014 #8

In the short term madville Dec 2014 #20

Blue Team or Red Team. 99Forever Dec 2014 #11

You have to win first before your issues can go anywhere Recursion Dec 2014 #12

Well we all see where your type of thinking has gotten us, don't we? 99Forever Dec 2014 #13

Yes - it won the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #53

Because that's ALL that's important, right? 99Forever Dec 2014 #54

Well we've heard that for over a decade now, and apparently it isn't working. So how about sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #26

You have to stand for something besides "I want re-election" before you can win. merrily Dec 2014 #30

Kay Hagen is an co chair of Third Way and was one of the last elected Democrats to support marriage Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #18

Truth and facts don't matter. Moving the Democratic party as far to the right as possible Zorra Dec 2014 #38

As far as Udall is concerned sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #19

New Dem Coalition/DLC/Third Way fredamae Dec 2014 #29

Progressive Policy Institute (offshoot of DLC) and Center for American Progress, too. merrily Dec 2014 #31

Thanks-I did not know that n/t fredamae Dec 2014 #34

Will Marshall started PPI. He and Al From were the first two full time employees merrily Dec 2014 #35

Yeah-just looking fredamae Dec 2014 #39

DLC 1985; PPI, 1989. merrily Dec 2014 #41

The Political Learning Curve is a B!tch! fredamae Dec 2014 #42

On the bright side, learning new stuff every day is better than merrily Dec 2014 #43

Enjoy your evening as well :) n/t fredamae Dec 2014 #44

Forgot: No Labels. Started (supposedly) by a Bushite and flocked to by Clintonites. merrily Dec 2014 #37

so that's why even though he is one of the biggest critics of the NSA JI7 Dec 2014 #45

Why not include LWolf Dec 2014 #24

So did mine, but that will be attributed solely to my being in Massachusetts. merrily Dec 2014 #32

Yes. LWolf Dec 2014 #33

Blue Dogs in Congress are fredamae Dec 2014 #27

What are you trying to insinuate?? nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author kentuck Dec 2014 #40

Not sure about calling those three "liberals". DanTex Dec 2014 #49

You're right, compared to the House, my argument is weaker here Recursion Dec 2014 #52

Your argument here is not 'weaker' it is mendaciously phrased and excludes liberal Democrats who won Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #55