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In reply to the discussion: This is what a REAL Democrat sounds like. [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)we wouldn't know about it. And that's fine--he's "our guy" so we know he did it for good reasons. If Bush tried it, his people would feel the same way, but we'd be shitting bricks and spitting hellfire.
Again, you're telling me that FDR was a pragmatist and I know that--I don't have a problem with that, but I am just not sure why it's "OK" for him to be one, but not "OK" for anyone living in this century to be one...?
I understand what FDR did, and why. So do most people. They see him in the context of his time. I just find it odd (and I am not speaking to you specifically) that all these history afficionados can't seem to see our own politicians in the context of their time. Obama wants to grow the party, too, and reach out in areas where we don't have many inroads--he's no different from FDR in that regard.
As I have said, five or ten years from now, a lot of Obama's worst detractors here are likely going to be boasting about how they were "with him" all along. And these are people who accuse Obama and other Democrats of not being "real Democrats" or a "turd wayers" or other debasing remarks.