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cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
23. Yep! You feel like I do!
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:51 PM
Dec 2014

We've gotten to know Bernie a lot from his discussions with Thom Hartmann on Fridays over the years, and I think most progressives feel that he and we shape our thoughts together for what is needed for this country. I'd support Bernie in a heart beat.

But I think Warren, should she want to get in the race would be a better choice at this point pragmatically for the reasons that you list, and also because as a woman, she would deflate the distractions in the primary that the corporate media would inject on identity politics that we saw a lot last election when we had a man of color versus a woman.

With two white women (Clinton and Warren) in the primary this time, we will have the chance to help women finally get a voice at the top of the ticket and also have in the primaries a focus on the issues since the media won't be able to play the gender card in terms of distracting us from that. With Bernie running, we still might get that put in place. To really get a progressive accepted by a majority of Americans and have that 99% revolution of spirit and what the masses want, we'll NEED an emphasis on discussions on issues that affect all of us that the 1% don''t want discussed. Both Bernie and Warren will help us steer that national conversation that way to ensure the general election gets a progressive voice the support it needs to win.

Thank you for this. djean111 Dec 2014 #1
+1 yep, well said djean111 nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #3
Well said. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #28
Agreed, djean111 JDPriestly Dec 2014 #45
I will not scurry to Hillary Land. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #49
+1 beerandjesus Dec 2014 #55
Nailed it! L0oniX Dec 2014 #59
Well to be fair she does have 11 percent support yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #61
I base my support on policy, not what everybody else is doing. djean111 Dec 2014 #62
Hillary has worked her fingers to the bones for yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #63
Well, whatever good she has done may be frittered away with the TPP. djean111 Dec 2014 #64
it's a lot like the support for Obama in 2008 Doctor_J Dec 2014 #2
Once again Andy823 Dec 2014 #6
I will try to stop personalizing it. He is just the face of the entire group of Doctor_J Dec 2014 #18
I know it's easier for you to be critical if you think it's personal, but it's not. Just as the OP rhett o rick Dec 2014 #29
so 2014-6 Warrenites are even *less* willing to hold off on criticism and less likely to declare MisterP Dec 2014 #9
It is only her policies that draw me to her. If she didn't have the actions behind her words, RiverLover Dec 2014 #33
precisely: the Loyalists always say "don't complain about 99% perfect" MisterP Dec 2014 #38
You nailed that. 99Forever Dec 2014 #35
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #50
Of course we are still all free to call supporters of Obama a personality cult, right? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #4
Yes you are. SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #11
Only if they always push back on any criticisms surrounding poor policy choices. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #30
Absolutely when all they post are Obama adulation threads and posts and never discuss actual issues. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #44
Excellent Post, JP! Derek V Dec 2014 #5
Yup. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #19
No Problems Here! Derek V Dec 2014 #36
I wish she would run jalan48 Dec 2014 #7
I like her Andy823 Dec 2014 #8
Yes, Congress, especially the gerrymandered House, is a big problem that must be fixed. Maineman Dec 2014 #14
With Warren or Bernie though, we wouldn't have a president pushing TPP behind the scenes... cascadiance Dec 2014 #26
Yes. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #46
If Warren's presence does nothing more than shame Clinton into more progressive talk... Orsino Dec 2014 #10
We've already had someone who just talked progressive, and it didn't make them RiverLover Dec 2014 #34
K&R The people are looking for a real representative.. SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #12
I want her to run. That doesn't mean I endorse her. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #13
Right on! MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #15
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Huh? Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #20
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Here, fer Chrissake. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #41
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The term has a specific meaning in philosophy and science, and I was using that way. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #43
I think that people who minimally care about policy and are driven by personality and partisan Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #17
I like Warren's personality. I think it makes her a candidate who could win the election in JDPriestly Dec 2014 #48
Yeah, baby, that's what I'm talkin' about libodem Dec 2014 #21
And her best partner, should she run, would be Bernie. nt silvershadow Dec 2014 #22
I'd hate to lose both of them from the Senate. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #31
Presidency for Senate is a good swap, IMO eridani Dec 2014 #40
Yep! You feel like I do! cascadiance Dec 2014 #23
I prefer Bernie, but I could vote for Warren. Unlike some other candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #24
Good perspective. There's a lot of 'personality cult' and 'purist' usage lately. appalachiablue Dec 2014 #25
Very well said, JR! n/t Kermitt Gribble Dec 2014 #27
K&R.... daleanime Dec 2014 #32
I will ask here what every candidate needs to be asked. woo me with science Dec 2014 #39
Nice insight and well said. riqster Dec 2014 #47
I disagree with your last paragraph JonLP24 Dec 2014 #51
First thought, reading this on this fine morning, and to paraphrase Bill Clinton, for those djean111 Dec 2014 #52
Announcements have not happened and tbe primaries have not begun, all Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #53
Well thought out post. PatrickforO Dec 2014 #54
Agree, not a personality cult. lark Dec 2014 #56
Yes. You friggin nailed it. Thank you, lark!! nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #57
Thanks lark Dec 2014 #58
Thanks for pointing that out "Jackpine." KoKo Dec 2014 #60
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