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jwirr

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21. Economically that is true but farmers in recent years have had reason to be concerned about the

Reply to hunter (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:57 PM

Dec 2014

other aspect of synthetic fertilizers. The environment is having problems. Most farmers understand that to stay in business they have to preserve their soil.

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Fully solar + EV world by 2030? Exciting rumblings of imminent economic shift. [View all] True Blue Door Dec 2014 OP

The Saudis have not cut production in the wake of the price of oil falling and they say they're not MADem Dec 2014 #1

That would make sense. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #2

I want me an EV...have a 12 year old car waiting for the time...tick, tock, can not wait much more. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #6

I have a 28 year old subcompact! MADem Dec 2014 #18

The good news is Tesla owners get free recharging forever. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #19

Interesting... thanks. hunter Dec 2014 #3

How do synthetic fertilizers relate to this? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #4

If the price of fossil fuels drops, especially natural gas... hunter Dec 2014 #15

Ah. But low oil prices would only be temporary. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #17

Economically that is true but farmers in recent years have had reason to be concerned about the jwirr Dec 2014 #21

Permaculture is the way forward IMO nt. CJCRANE Dec 2014 #7

Build a better battery, build a better solar cell...game over for fossil fuel for transportation and Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #5

Some other implications that just occurred to me: True Blue Door Dec 2014 #10

A see a 10 foot by 10 foot solar panel on every roof, each cell running at 90% conversion Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #11

Absolutely. It's glorious. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #14

Just put a tarp over it!? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #20

That was my thought too! True Blue Door Dec 2014 #26

Replace all the panels? Keep a store of extra panels? Should be a good store of power in storage. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #27

Good idea. Once panels are extremely cheap, that should be economical. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #29

And I love the idea of those solar roads that produce energy. They are going to test them in my jwirr Dec 2014 #23

Exactly. I expect those cars will be really popular in Alaska... hughee99 Dec 2014 #22

It is not called a frontier for nothing, most folk live at good latitudes for solar. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #25

Except the OP is talking about a 'fully solar world by 2030'. Not solar except frontiers. nt kelly1mm Dec 2014 #30

Most likely they would import batteries charged with solar elsewhere. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #31

Alaska's an interesting case to think about. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #28

Not if the Koch's have any say so n2doc Dec 2014 #8

Futile delaying tactics. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #13

And with this hopeful prediction - we just elected a bunch of Rs. jwirr Dec 2014 #24

Great post thanks Champion Jack Dec 2014 #9

Solar colsohlibgal Dec 2014 #12

What they're trying to do is make people who hook their panels into the grid True Blue Door Dec 2014 #16