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joshcryer

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32. We know this because even lesser stuff is hard enough to get passed.

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 12:46 AM

Dec 2011

Unless you'll have me believe that the Republicans are obstructing trivial stuff because they want it to be more progressive. Which, btw, is even more laughable and I couldn't even continue responding to you if you believe it.

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They caved! It's a testatment to how far we've fallen that [View all] MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 OP

I dig it Manny. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #1

That's the TeaNuts for you. VOTE THEM THE FUCK OUT IN NOVEMBER ! RBInMaine Dec 2011 #2

How is a two month extension a victory? Immediately after the holidays the fight will doc03 Dec 2011 #3

so, did they also pass to shorten the unemployment benefits? newspeak Dec 2011 #50

Wait ProSense Dec 2011 #4

I think he is saying polmaven Dec 2011 #55

It's a testatment to how far we've fallen that a tax break that helps millions of American's... joshcryer Dec 2011 #5

It's not actually a tax break. It is a reduction in funding the public pension fund. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #6

The unemployment insurance extension and the payroll tax break extension are a stimulus for... joshcryer Dec 2011 #7

If you want to sit home, be my guest. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #8

Enjoy yourself when you get that same talking point thrown at you from the right. joshcryer Dec 2011 #10

I anticipate those talking points. Apparently, so do you... Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #14

SS, Medicare, etc, can all be cut in one fell swoop if we don't get the right people in office. joshcryer Dec 2011 #15

How is cutting contributions to the public pension fund progressive? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #17

Yawn, it's not leading to insolvency, thus it is a non-issue. joshcryer Dec 2011 #19

Exactly. It will be used by the right wingers because it is a right wing idea. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #28

Only if you perpetuate the false meme that it is leading to insolvency. joshcryer Dec 2011 #29

I never once said it was leading to insulvency. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #38

You said, quite plainly, "it cracks the door ajar to make SS partially dependent on General Funds." joshcryer Dec 2011 #42

I've read an reread that sentence and still can't see any reference to insolvency. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #44

It's a continuation of the right wing meme, imo. joshcryer Dec 2011 #45

I've been listening to the right come up with a multiple of schemes... Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #46

BTW, I'll note, typically, you have nothing to say about unemployment extensions. joshcryer Dec 2011 #20

Do you think that having a job is privileged? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #21

No, not appreciating the situation of others is likely a result of privilege. joshcryer Dec 2011 #23

My husband says to tell you that since privilege is 99% out of our reach, Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #33

The other options would be naivety or ignorance. joshcryer Dec 2011 #36

Definitely. I'm going with sociopath. Please respect that and Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #39

Interesting, I don't know many self-described sociopaths. joshcryer Dec 2011 #41

Until you mentioned the possibilty, it hadn't occured to us. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #43

it's a fine pursuit BobbyBoring Dec 2011 #61

I Think It's Clear RobinA Dec 2011 #56

Some day, those getting this tax cut will regret it because it is going to be used JDPriestly Dec 2011 #59

All taxes fund something. It is, factually speaking, a temporary tax break continuation. Honeycombe8 Dec 2011 #11

Exactly ... should never have been enacted BOHICA12 Dec 2011 #12

Good luck getting that passed in a bipartisan manner. joshcryer Dec 2011 #13

December 2010 - was the only window BOHICA12 Dec 2011 #24

And that's if you put your full faith in Lieberman. joshcryer Dec 2011 #34

No, that could have been passed without Lieberman in 2009 or 2010. eomer Dec 2011 #47

Please stop parroting that right wing talking point, which happens to be a LIE. jefferson_dem Dec 2011 #26

The payroll tax cut tranfers the obligation to pay part of Social Security JDPriestly Dec 2011 #60

It is maintaining the status quo whopis01 Dec 2011 #49

K&R. Brickbat Dec 2011 #9

Sometimes a weenie is just a weenie rufus dog Dec 2011 #16

I love you. MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #18

God called me rufus dog Dec 2011 #22

Real relief for 160M working Americans, during these tough economic times ... jefferson_dem Dec 2011 #25

What will be different January 1st than it is today? MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #27

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How would we know this MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #31

We know this because even lesser stuff is hard enough to get passed. joshcryer Dec 2011 #32

We're not going to agree on this. MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #37

No, absolutely, I think if we do fight, we can make headway. The "caving" only proves it. joshcryer Dec 2011 #40

unfortunatley for the the past 30+ years fighting to hold on to the status quo has been the modus Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #35

It's a victory in that they agreed to a 2 month compromise without requiring mmonk Dec 2011 #48

Yes, ProSense Dec 2011 #51

Trashed...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #52

But you can sober up this afternoon...nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #54

It's my hope that Obama will realize that he can do this A LOT. Autumn Dec 2011 #53

made possible by allowing a few blowhards with big microphones to stand on every corner and stump in certainot Dec 2011 #57

This is really a win for Republicans like Pete Peterson and a loss for Democrats. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #58