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Bluenorthwest

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3. I think they both have extremist ideologies, but one is a specific organization and the other is not

Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:12 PM

Feb 2015

So in that way the analogy is flawed. It's also pointless unless you are a 'person of faith' out to pit one faith against the other or to use one as mitigation for the other. For me, saying 'religious extremists are all alike' is easier. The dogma they claim to believe is not my concern, what concerns me is what they do, the actions they take. The brand of nonsense they use as excuse for their actions is not at all important.
The other reason this sort of concept is a slippery slope is that clearly ISIS gets more done in terms of their extremism than our local extremists manage. If ISIS and our extremists are both identical organizations then that which prevents ours from flourishing lies in the larger societies and majorities around them. Is that what you think, that we are just better as a society, that's why even with an organization just like ISIS among us, life goes on without open warfare with them? Or is it just magic?

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ISIS and “Christian” Extremists: Both of them are terrorist organizations. [View all] riqster Feb 2015 OP

I have been saying for ages that I fear the fundamentalist reichwingnutjobs in this country niyad Feb 2015 #1

And you have been correct. riqster Feb 2015 #2

I think they both have extremist ideologies, but one is a specific organization and the other is not Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #3

I think it's more about funding, organization and opportunity. CJCRANE Feb 2015 #5

Of similar beliefs, but dissimilar actions whatthehey Feb 2015 #4

Actually, violent Christian extremists are quite a problem. riqster Feb 2015 #9

Sure - but nowhere near the same extent. There are Buddhist and Hindu terror groups too whatthehey Feb 2015 #12

If it's only a question of degree, I don't think my OP is disproved riqster Feb 2015 #14

Another point, albeit a minor one: riqster Feb 2015 #34

Best to confront these "terrorists" as soon as possible, like, at the visitor parking space. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #6

I am sure that would have stopped Eric Rudolph. riqster Feb 2015 #35

Well, the militant atheists managed to stop 3 religious types recently. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #39

Christian extremists have killed far more people than ISIS could ever dream of mwrguy Feb 2015 #7

I have no dog in the make believe fight, but this is not true recently whatthehey Feb 2015 #8

Depends on how narrowly you draw your definitions. riqster Feb 2015 #10

or how much you push the limits of definitions whatthehey Feb 2015 #13

The OP said that there are Moslem and Christian terrorist groups. riqster Feb 2015 #15

The rule of law in Western-style democracies makes 90% of your post pointless Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #11

Crap. Christian terrorists exist. riqster Feb 2015 #16

The western judicial system punishes criminal violence - religious inspired or otherwise Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #17

True, but not all that relevant in relation to the OP. riqster Feb 2015 #23

I don't make irrelevant posts. Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #25

And upon you, peace. riqster Feb 2015 #26

One way to dilute the atrocities of one group is by saying everyone does it. Kaleva Feb 2015 #18

And another way is to say "those other guys kill more people than these". riqster Feb 2015 #20

Case of the mistaken mondegreen seveneyes Feb 2015 #19

Wore my copy out, I must admit. riqster Feb 2015 #21

I completely agree with this el_bryanto Feb 2015 #22

I certainly did not mean to tar all Moslems and Christians with that brush. riqster Feb 2015 #24

Not at all - I appreciate that you made the distinction. el_bryanto Feb 2015 #27

Like Obama made crystal clear in his speech yesterday....both are evil...both cloak evil in religion Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #28

S'truth. riqster Feb 2015 #31

Also, largely ignored is the entirety of Obama's messsage, the media filters not only Obama to suit the agenda Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #33

Yeah, I usually wait for transcripts myself. riqster Feb 2015 #36

Here it is: Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #38

Thanks. riqster Feb 2015 #40

We can rein in domestic terrorism with one first step meow2u3 Feb 2015 #47

I would be interested in seeing a link Jenoch Feb 2015 #29

So, a beheading is worse than shooting an abortion provider? riqster Feb 2015 #30

+1000 hobbit709 Feb 2015 #32

When did 21 abortion providers Jenoch Feb 2015 #43

So it's quantity then? riqster Feb 2015 #44

I am not justifyig the shooting of a single Jenoch Feb 2015 #45

Nowhere in the OP did I claim quantitative equivalence. riqster Feb 2015 #46

And let's not forget the fatwa issued by the Pope against the guy who created "Piss Christ". Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #37

Damfino. riqster Feb 2015 #41

Not sure about the Pope, but Bill O'Reilly just issued a fatwa CJCRANE Feb 2015 #42