Greece and the Endgame of the Neocolonial Model of Exploitation (February 19, 2015)

[mother earth]

15. I don't agree at all with you about the source of Greece's problems. It's the oligarchy, same as

here, only it is far worst there. I think you need to give a listen to "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" so you can fully grasp how the banks and corporations operate to indebt a nation. John Adams once said, "There are two ways to conquer a nation, one is by the sword, the other by debt." All you have to do is look to our own economic history, which is explained very well by Varoufakis on one of those vids., esp. the Great Depression, how it got there & all the things done after.

The Greeks are being painted as lazy freeloaders, moochers on the EU society, the real moochers are the oligarchs, big monied interests that buy governments & loot & pillage resources, privatizing profits and socializing risk, & one has only to look to our SCOTUS & Citizens United, to see how well that is doing for the masses here.

I don't know who you are, I'm going to assume you are young, I shouldn't have to explain how any progressive feels on these issues.
You seem to feel the "creditors" are representing their interests? I threw up just a little when I read that, but I'll give you a pass on that too and explain, suicide is rampant in Greece, the Golden Dawn, a neo-Nazi group is popular, which is what happens when the squeeze is put on a nation and austerity is imposed. Fascism develops very quickly, this is how Hitler came into power, and Germany would do well to remember the compassion and debt they were forgiven in the aftermath of that time.

There is no way you listened to Varoufakis, because that man does not want an exit from the Euro, nor does he want to skip out on debt. The EU will compromise on this issue, because they cannot afford a Greek exit, because there are several other countries that are also in dire straights. This is why its important to understand it isn't just a bailout that gave the banksters here a free pass, the bastards got one everywhere and we are all, globally suffering in the aftermath.

You can sympathize with creditors? Really? Are you aware of the crimes of those so called "creditors"....the crimes they get off with by paying fines? Those big corporations have personhood now, but not a damn one of those criminal entities will ever serve time. When a "creditor" can get away with tax evasion & money laundering, just to name a few, I'm hard pressed to shed a tear for them.

Every gov't that spent money on bail-outs for the banks did so with taxpayer money, middle class taxpayer money. Varoufakis has succinctly said, "Why send murderers when you can send bailiffs?"

I can spend hours and hours on this subject, I'm astounded that anyone here would find any amount of sympathy for the ongoing issues that are morphing and spreading chaos, much less NOT understand exactly how Greece and other EU nations are suffering.

Please, do not tell me you listened to those vids and still "don't buy it".

But when it comes to the changes in the policies in Greece, it can't act without the approval of other European countries.

The big subject of most of those videos is due to negotiations by the EU between Germany et al and Greece.
Of course nothing can be done without a consensus of the EU nations.

All I can say is that with the small number of posts you have, you are either quite young, and perhaps still learning, or worst.

(Editing to add this, Varoufakis is the Greek Finance Minister who is negotiating with the EU nations, to find a way of meeting the Greece obligations.)