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In reply to the discussion: America’s Anti-Liberal Myth: Why Dems Learned The Wrong Lesson From 1984 - Salon [View all]RiverLover
(7,830 posts)18. Absofreekinlutely brilliant, comprehensive, fabulous article. HUGE Thanks WillyT!
& Salon,
& Mike Conrad, beautiful writer, brilliant mind.
....Today, We Are All Walter Mondale
The hits keep coming. In more recent years New Dems have tried to apply the 1984 lesson to whatever political moment theyre in. Before declaring itself the New DLC (because in their mind the word new is some kind of magic incantation) and then ultimately folding and giving way to Third Way, the DLC tarred Democrats with the pejorative member of the unelectable Mondale wing. The trait that earned a Democrat this label circa 2003 was opposition to the Iraq war, a sin no Democrat with serious future national aspirations could commit lest they consign themselves to irrevocable Not President status. Anyone who would have suggested to the DLC that the next Democrat to win the White House would be a Hyde Park State Senator named Barack Obama elected in large part because of his opposition to the Iraq war would have been met with all sorts of political spectrum positioning-based derision.
In 2006 Kentucky populist John Yarmuth was written off by then-DCCC chair Rahm Emanuel as too progressive to win. Yarmuth won and has remained outspoken in the House while winning re-election ever since while, for the record, Rahms prized Blue Dogs have seen their ranks decimated multiple times over (and Rahm himself is now struggling to hold onto his own mayoral seat in Chicago). In 2012 Matt Cartwright ran as a proud economic progressive FDR Democrat challenging 10-term incumbent Blue Dog Rep. Tim Holden for the Democratic nomination in Pennsylvanias newly redistricted 17th District. When Cartwright prevailed economic conservaDems in DC warned that Cartwrights win could herald an era of unelectable Democrats ousting them in primaries. Cartwright defeated his Republican opponent in the general election by 22 points....
...What they have done is, on a number of instances, shamelessly changed their rationale for why elected Democrats need to do what Third Ways donors wanted Democrats to do. They do this because New Dems organizations like Third Way are not on a mission to get Democrats to win elections. Theyre on a mission to lock Democrats into serving high finance, even at the expense of winning elections. The New Dems are not acting out of concern that progressive populist Democrats will lose. They dont want liberals to win.
The hits keep coming. In more recent years New Dems have tried to apply the 1984 lesson to whatever political moment theyre in. Before declaring itself the New DLC (because in their mind the word new is some kind of magic incantation) and then ultimately folding and giving way to Third Way, the DLC tarred Democrats with the pejorative member of the unelectable Mondale wing. The trait that earned a Democrat this label circa 2003 was opposition to the Iraq war, a sin no Democrat with serious future national aspirations could commit lest they consign themselves to irrevocable Not President status. Anyone who would have suggested to the DLC that the next Democrat to win the White House would be a Hyde Park State Senator named Barack Obama elected in large part because of his opposition to the Iraq war would have been met with all sorts of political spectrum positioning-based derision.
In 2006 Kentucky populist John Yarmuth was written off by then-DCCC chair Rahm Emanuel as too progressive to win. Yarmuth won and has remained outspoken in the House while winning re-election ever since while, for the record, Rahms prized Blue Dogs have seen their ranks decimated multiple times over (and Rahm himself is now struggling to hold onto his own mayoral seat in Chicago). In 2012 Matt Cartwright ran as a proud economic progressive FDR Democrat challenging 10-term incumbent Blue Dog Rep. Tim Holden for the Democratic nomination in Pennsylvanias newly redistricted 17th District. When Cartwright prevailed economic conservaDems in DC warned that Cartwrights win could herald an era of unelectable Democrats ousting them in primaries. Cartwright defeated his Republican opponent in the general election by 22 points....
...What they have done is, on a number of instances, shamelessly changed their rationale for why elected Democrats need to do what Third Ways donors wanted Democrats to do. They do this because New Dems organizations like Third Way are not on a mission to get Democrats to win elections. Theyre on a mission to lock Democrats into serving high finance, even at the expense of winning elections. The New Dems are not acting out of concern that progressive populist Democrats will lose. They dont want liberals to win.
How many times have I heard Elizabeth Warren compared to Walter Mondale here at DU?
Its like a mantra.
Please, let this article spread like WILDFIRE!!!! Truth!
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America’s Anti-Liberal Myth: Why Dems Learned The Wrong Lesson From 1984 - Salon [View all]
WillyT
Mar 2015
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We know all this. The problem is that the conservatives offer the public candy while the liberals
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#3
I love broccoli, but the problem is that the non-liberals like their candy.
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#5
We have posters right here in River City that desparately want to be considered liberal
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#6
They Don't Care Whether She's Liberal Or Not... They Just Care That She Can Win...
WillyT
Mar 2015
#7
heck, in poli sci we always heard that Clinton ran left and ruled right (like Carlos Menem!)
MisterP
Mar 2015
#16
Absofreekinlutely brilliant, comprehensive, fabulous article. HUGE Thanks WillyT!
RiverLover
Mar 2015
#18
rahm is no democrat: "They’re on a mission to lock Democrats into serving high finance,
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#29
Demo-Pubs = losers. Third way dems = losers. Whether they win elections pretending
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#30
Bill Clinton campaign speech exerpt (insert one of those obnoxious ROFL here)
RiverLover
Mar 2015
#36
Conservative Democrats lie just as much as Conservative Republicans. K&R. nt
stillwaiting
Mar 2015
#42