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cali

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135. this has shit all to do with pitting people aganist one another

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:15 AM

Apr 2015

I was trying to impress on people that this is an issue as vital. And it worked- at least to some degree.

this is the longest thread I've ever seen on abortion on DU.

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Women's Reproductive Rights are every bit as important as LGBT rights or [View all] cali Mar 2015 OP

yes dembotoz Mar 2015 #1

That's why I don't call the Indiana bill Anti-LGBT LynneSin Mar 2015 #2

Can the Indiana Law be used to protect reproductive rights? Downwinder Mar 2015 #20

If a pharmacist doesn't believe in abortion they could use the law to not hand out... LynneSin Mar 2015 #26

But if he believes in choice can he hand Downwinder Mar 2015 #31

Don't birth control pills have to be prescribed by a doctor? nt valerief Apr 2015 #155

things needing a prescription still need that but could hand it condoms, non-rx of course. uppityperson Apr 2015 #161

You still need a prescription LynneSin Apr 2015 #168

No. jeff47 Mar 2015 #54

I don't know about that example dsc Mar 2015 #69

You BETTER BELIEVE they'd try to use it against women and other groups, too. As many other groups calimary Mar 2015 #28

sure do. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #46

But don't you get it, Blanche? Women are containers. calimary Mar 2015 #66

I've been saying that since forever...that women aren't really people. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #71

Wow, that is a powerful statement! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #131

Show on Syfy "Helix" just introduced that concept in the last episode. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #103

They want to enforce their notion of morality... haikugal Mar 2015 #113

women BARELY have reproductive rights in Indiana -- "extremely hostile state" nashville_brook Mar 2015 #29

That's obvious- a woman who had a miscarriage might get 70 years in jail LynneSin Mar 2015 #33

but we're way more concerned that a gay couple might not be able to buy flowers from a xtian? nashville_brook Mar 2015 #36

Wow -- what a way to trivialize it nichomachus Mar 2015 #56

and women's healthcare isn't just about abortions -- but we get no help nashville_brook Apr 2015 #146

That is not what I took away from it, also I find your response repulsive Dragonfli Mar 2015 #85

+1... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #101

there's no "excusing" either -- but one is never mentioned, the other is a national outrage nashville_brook Apr 2015 #145

That is what the OP was pointing out, yet without diminishing the other Dragonfli Apr 2015 #150

This remark is really Skidmore Apr 2015 #157

Well, it WILL increase the potential profit base in our nation's proud private prisons! PatrickforO Mar 2015 #121

Great and stark maps! thanks cali Mar 2015 #62

The difference is that there are federal laws to protect women Fearless Mar 2015 #60

Essentially meaningless under the onslaught of state laws and regulations cali Mar 2015 #63

Except that Federal laws and regulations generally supercede those at the state level. Veilex Mar 2015 #95

Why don't you read up on the spate of women being prosecuted or jailed to bettyellen Mar 2015 #117

do try paying attention to the endless spate of restrictions on women's rights in each of the niyad Mar 2015 #120

Grrrrr. Man, that shit stinks. cali Apr 2015 #137

it does, indeed. niyad Apr 2015 #153

Fucking Fail of Great Magnitude. Try to keep up, dude. cali Apr 2015 #136

Well, actually you're wrong about that CreekDog Apr 2015 #165

We can be upset at both. We don't have to choose one or the other. n/t BeeBee Mar 2015 #3

People have chosen. Post a thread about a new discriminatory law against cali Mar 2015 #8

At least this one did. question everything Mar 2015 #16

that was one of the few. most posts on women's rights and the attacks against them niyad Mar 2015 #21

That's why we have to start attaching that issue to the LGBT issue. calimary Mar 2015 #32

we've totally chosen -- and women lost out. nashville_brook Mar 2015 #23

All rights are under attack. MineralMan Mar 2015 #4

Sorry. Women's Reproductive rights are FAR more under attack cali Mar 2015 #5

Why would you think I do not know that? MineralMan Mar 2015 #11

This is what I was talking about BainsBane Mar 2015 #25

Don't forget the mentally ill Liberalynn Mar 2015 #51

+1 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #127

Yes, of course. Though my comments weren't meant to include all oppressed groups BainsBane Apr 2015 #133

far more insofar as legistlatio goes. cali Mar 2015 #64

I'll say this, again ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #107

tough. and bullshit. was that clear enough? cali Apr 2015 #138

Yes. your newly found concern for ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #143

+1 BainsBane Mar 2015 #7

Again, you are far more graceful/accepting than I am ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #105

Yes, and not just reproductive rights BainsBane Mar 2015 #6

And you are fucking wrong. There is no pitting only anger that people don't cali Mar 2015 #10

Well, I certainly agree with that. BainsBane Mar 2015 #17

Yes and this makes me so angry kcr Apr 2015 #141

I see it that way too.. haikugal Mar 2015 #114

As long as half the world's population is dumped on by the other half LiberalEsto Mar 2015 #9

More question everything Mar 2015 #12

Want proof that women's rights are at risk? Anybody notice pence mentioning Hobby Lobby? calimary Mar 2015 #37

most of those laws are still in force. mopinko Mar 2015 #65

The right wing in this country cilla4progress Mar 2015 #13

+1 appalachiablue Mar 2015 #79

I was just thinking this exact same thing! Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #14

Me, too. calimary Mar 2015 #40

Descent into RW Hell & Fascism- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #126

It's all really about human rights... Wounded Bear Mar 2015 #15

And I would add, a woman's right to keep her child even if she is impoverished me b zola Mar 2015 #18

I've been screaming about this everywhere.... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #19

was that an illustration for an edition of "the handmaid's tale"? whatever, it is stunning, and I niyad Mar 2015 #27

yeah. it's from a 2012 award winning illustrated novel. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #38

So have I, Blanche. calimary Mar 2015 #41

Women's Suffering Doesn't Matter. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #48

I'm screaming, too. I'm BEYOND fed up. calimary Mar 2015 #70

i gotta run...must get back to you later. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #72

I like how you think! haikugal Mar 2015 #115

hell to the yeah nashville_brook Mar 2015 #22

exactly. niyad Mar 2015 #24

The Indiana mess made me wonder about that too, no boycotts for anti-women legislation? appalachiablue Apr 2015 #128

I know a lot of us engage in our own private boycotts, but no, have not seen calls niyad Apr 2015 #152

More awareness & organized resistance against this is needed especially now while the momentum appalachiablue Apr 2015 #166

you are correct. niyad Apr 2015 #169

I'm proud to say, I put my money where my mouth is. As I said in another post... BlueJazz Mar 2015 #30

instead, let's attack Patrica Arquette...b/c that's effective. nashville_brook Mar 2015 #34

you are so right about how much we have lost with the stupid, hate-filled, fear-based niyad Mar 2015 #45

I think most do realize it, and speak out about it here. herding cats Mar 2015 #35

Maybe here, yes. But it has to go out MUCH farther. And so far that's not what's happening. calimary Mar 2015 #42

I agree herding cats Mar 2015 #50

Amen and THANK YOU! PeaceNikki Mar 2015 #39

Do you think the disparity in public outrage is because abortion is enough Mar 2015 #43

Consider the possiblity that this issue is relevant because half of betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #61

Makes sense. (nt) enough Mar 2015 #112

Wasn't the Indiana law passed to target women? Prism Mar 2015 #44

Justice Ginsburg... one_voice Mar 2015 #47

There are more of us collectively, than old white men... onecaliberal Mar 2015 #49

I agree with you Cali Andy823 Mar 2015 #52

They are every bit as important gollygee Mar 2015 #53

Misogyny is the original sin of bigotry, from where all bigotry begins. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #55

Yes it is.. whathehell Mar 2015 #76

Calling Dems "baby killers" doesn't work anymore. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #57

It's not an either / or Fearless Mar 2015 #58

It's not either/or. We need progress in both areas. The question is: Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #86

Because women's rigthts has been further than LGBT rights since the beginning of the movements Fearless Mar 2015 #91

45% of women voted for Mitt Romney davidn3600 Mar 2015 #98

Sadly, that's what you get with a patriarchal bvf Apr 2015 #148

Agree 100%. Glad you posted this. n/t Paper Roses Mar 2015 #59

you are dead right cali. mopinko Mar 2015 #67

Women alone being denied tables in restaurants HockeyMom Mar 2015 #68

This absolutely exists in Manhattan and smaller places. I've experienced it at restaurants appalachiablue Apr 2015 #164

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #73

Why is this so unspoken? frazzled Mar 2015 #74

We must Delphinus Apr 2015 #167

I've fought for choice all my life, and I've never heard any LGBT person claim those rights are Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #75

This isn't an attack of the LGBT community cali Mar 2015 #77

I'll post ita 3rd time... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #108

Thank you! ananda Mar 2015 #78

And I suspect these assaults JEB Mar 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Mar 2015 #87

The talibornigan brigade's expressions of hate are multifaceted, Their Sharia laws popular of late Dragonfli Mar 2015 #80

So, as a Bi woman... TDale313 Mar 2015 #81

"imo the op is divisive. This is not an either/or thing." - Agreed Veilex Mar 2015 #97

Women have Roe v Wade davidn3600 Mar 2015 #83

sorry, you are really, really uninformed. Roe v Wade has been rendered cali Mar 2015 #84

I don't know how much of it is ignorance, JTFrog Mar 2015 #100

Millions of women in this country don't have access to abortion ... Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #88

Pretty shocking to see that kind of uninformed stuff here. cali Mar 2015 #89

Indeed. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #90

It's not uninformed and it's not ignorance, it's an intentional mra attack/talking point. MerryBlooms Mar 2015 #104

+1. nt seabeyond Mar 2015 #106

Exactly right. Embarrassed to see this hateful and knowingly ignorant nonsense in GD. bettyellen Mar 2015 #118

I couldn't agree more BainsBane Apr 2015 #132

+ infinity. n/t JTFrog Apr 2015 #163

I've long thought that LGBTQ folks need to be considered a "protected class" - TBF Mar 2015 #94

Civil rights are important period - TBF Mar 2015 #92

"Women's Reproductive Rights are every bit as important as LGBT rights or fighting racism." - True. Veilex Mar 2015 #93

Posted a 4th time ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #110

People are picking hills to die on, rather than playing whack-a-mole... Veilex Apr 2015 #123

it's all about the "Meism" that some enjoy ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #125

posted for the 2nd time. tough and bullshit. cali Apr 2015 #139

See post #143 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #144

+1 Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #124

no one said they were. duh. But hundreds of laws restricting a woman's right to choose cali Apr 2015 #140

"no one said they were. duh." - Actually, you did. By posting this distraction away from... Veilex Apr 2015 #158

bullshit. horse shit. dog shit. that's just false. cali Apr 2015 #160

"that's just false." - The notion that this thread is anything but a distraction from LGBTQ issues. Veilex Apr 2015 #162

Going to jail for a miscarrage or abortion is even worse that not being served at a store or restaur DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2015 #96

EVERY law that is discriminatory is aimed firstly at women. Then at sexual choices. raven mad Mar 2015 #99

Uhmm, You forgot a group. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #109

No, I didn't. raven mad Mar 2015 #111

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #119

Please use our site on FB to organize and fight the hate NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #102

So true. It's disappointing that barely a peep is said about it ecstatic Mar 2015 #116

I protest regularly with WORD (for "Women Organized to KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #122

The Republicans are only doing this to call the Dems murdering baby killers..... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #129

I don't see why we should allow ourselves to be pitted against one another on these issues ... brett_jv Apr 2015 #130

this has shit all to do with pitting people aganist one another cali Apr 2015 #135

And this thread isn't even really about abortion. hughee99 Apr 2015 #147

K&R Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #134

Yes! Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #142

Agreed. n/t prayin4rain Apr 2015 #149

agree veaux Apr 2015 #151

Kick. historylovr Apr 2015 #154

Bingo!!! valerief Apr 2015 #156

Yes. An assault on one person's rights is an assault on us all. Orsino Apr 2015 #159