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KittyWampus

(55,894 posts) Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:32 AM Apr 2015

Calling Hillary Clinton Supporters On DU "Operatives" Is Ugly [View all]

Insinuating that her current or future supporters are paid shills is divisive.

Doing so helps create an overall atmosphere of distrust. It breeds a sort of McCarthyism.

IMO, it shouldn't be encouraged because it ends up being a form of personal attack in a flimsy attempt at concealment.

There are a few Hillary supporters posting here whom I respect highly. Differ with primary choice of candidate, but that's normal.

Going forward I am going to make an effort to focus my commentary on the actual politicians and their history/positions and try to stay away from talking about supporters of any candidate. Unless some advocates for a candidate really cross a line.

I may not always live up to that goal. But it's a goal worth trying for.

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Calling Hillary Clinton Supporters On DU "Operatives" Is Ugly [View all] KittyWampus Apr 2015 OP

Remember Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2015 #1

Also, paid Wes Clark shill. Actually, according to some, Wes Clark ran to siphon votes from Dean KittyWampus Apr 2015 #5

HOLY CRAP! elleng Apr 2015 #84

I was a Wes Clark delegate Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #86

Oh yeah, Like some around here kept bullying ProSense that she was a "paid shill".. I cannot count Cha Apr 2015 #92

I wonder what's taking him so long to disburse my check. nt Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #95

Yes. While I am not keen on Hillary Clinton I can see why other people would be el_bryanto Apr 2015 #2

So is calling those who do not care for Hillary rat-fuckers, right-wingers, trolls, etc. djean111 Apr 2015 #3

Don't forget Puglover Apr 2015 #4

Oh, yes, I forgot - anyone who disagrees with what we can make out of Hillary's policies djean111 Apr 2015 #8

how is calling someone who supports Hillary an operative talking about her policies? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #12

What I am pointing out is how some HRC supporters call anyone who does not support her djean111 Apr 2015 #16

Then perhaps you should start a thread about it, rather than attempting ... 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #21

Then perhaps you should start a thread about it AlbertCat Apr 2015 #40

Too much logic there, AlbertCat. But thanks! djean111 Apr 2015 #51

My favorite, too. 840high Apr 2015 #29

When DU'ers post right wing garbage against her- they very well might. You don't see the difference? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #6

+1 Couldn't agree more! B Calm Apr 2015 #9

"Right wing garbage" seems now to include anything about Hillary that anyone does not care for. djean111 Apr 2015 #11

Well, I resent the stupid anti-Hillary garbage posted here cause it forces me to defend her. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #15

"Stupid anti-hillary garbage" to some, includes any question about her past record tularetom Apr 2015 #66

This. Disagreeing with Hillary on policy is the same as hate to many of her supporters. n/t Dawgs Apr 2015 #17

Haven't seen much of this "disagreeing on policy" you speak of.... because Her POLICIES VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #52

She helped write the TPP and has spoken in favor of it. There have been links to this posted many djean111 Apr 2015 #63

so has Obama....but lets see your evidence of her transgression...what you just said is EXACTLY VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #65

Her "transgression"? Word salad time, I guess. I do not support any politician who supports djean111 Apr 2015 #68

Here let me do it for you... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #69

That is also word salad. Those who have read the TPP say that there are no actual enforcements. djean111 Apr 2015 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Long Drive Apr 2015 #82

By the way...still no evidence.....otherwise it is still just rhetoric! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #70

What you posted - is merely actual campaign rhetoric. But we shall see soon how Hillary plans to djean111 Apr 2015 #74

If Fox News or Limbaugh is running with it... joshcryer Apr 2015 #60

If Hillary is for the TPP, for example, and I am against the TPP, and Fox or Limbaugh is against the djean111 Apr 2015 #61

Not at all. joshcryer Apr 2015 #67

Actually, the right wing loves the TPP. McConnell said it is the one thing he can certainly work djean111 Apr 2015 #71

Take the ISDS TPP revelations. joshcryer Apr 2015 #76

I have been posting against the TPP for over a year. I don't need right wing sites to get info djean111 Apr 2015 #78

Ran a search - looks like I have been posting about the TPP since 2013. djean111 Apr 2015 #80

Oh and let's no forget "Rand Paul clowns" mylye2222 Apr 2015 #89

What, exactly, is the right wing garbage that DUers are posting? Can I have an example? djean111 Apr 2015 #64

If someone is breathlessly quoting the Benghazi committee and/or right wing sources emulatorloo Apr 2015 #75

I would understand it if I read that stuff. I honestly do not remember any DUers believing djean111 Apr 2015 #77

Yes there are many legit issues one can criticize HRC for. That is why it disturbs me to see RW smears emulatorloo Apr 2015 #81

Yes. And it disturbs me when legit issues are dismissed as RW smears, too. djean111 Apr 2015 #83

Rest assured Gman Apr 2015 #10

If it rat fucks like a rat fucker it's a ratfucker. joshcryer Apr 2015 #59

Not "caring for" someone is not equivalent to the kind of garbage that gets posted regularly abt HRC Hekate Apr 2015 #62

+ a kabillion. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2015 #79

yes it is. and dumb as hell. cali Apr 2015 #7

They can call me what they want. I don't give a rip. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #13

Recommended H2O Man Apr 2015 #14

No surprise here... MattSh Apr 2015 #18

Haters, ratfuckers, trolls and a few other names that Non Supporters are Autumn Apr 2015 #19

Should Hillary become our nominee, I'll immediately become Snarkoleptic Apr 2015 #20

I have no problem being called a "paid operative" for Hillary leftofcool Apr 2015 #22

The truth is: There ARE paid antagonists who post on DU Trajan Apr 2015 #23

No such thing exists oberliner Apr 2015 #24

DU is so miniscule in the grand scheme. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2015 #35

Present some evidence. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #42

Nah....the NSA used to pay for posting here, but given DU's traffic, msanthrope Apr 2015 #44

Kitty, I agree completely and see the attacks as an attempt to make people uncomfortable karynnj Apr 2015 #25

I am not, nor have I ever been, a Hillary supporter. Don't like her. Don't want her. And that KittyWampus Apr 2015 #31

I have this same issue... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2015 #36

Same here for the same reasons karynnj Apr 2015 #46

I'm on that spectrum, Kitty, though probably not as strongly as you. Here I am defending her record Hekate Apr 2015 #72

the attacks as an attempt to make people uncomfortable AlbertCat Apr 2015 #43

Believe me, I know - because I know how intimidating it was to me karynnj Apr 2015 #45

Key word is absolutely "bullying", karyn. And, what I saw wasn't subtle bullying, either. Cha Apr 2015 #93

Well said & thank you. William769 Apr 2015 #26

It's a lazy tactic used by both her supporters and her detractors. jeff47 Apr 2015 #27

I Totally Agree Brett Fitz Apr 2015 #28

Would you prefer moles? AngryAmish Apr 2015 #30

I'm not a paid shill for anyone or anything ... ananda Apr 2015 #32

I am still waiting for Hillary to sign my check. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #33

I am also waiting for the check to be signed Gothmog Apr 2015 #37

I just recieved my five figure check for one weeks work... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #38

5 figure????????????? leftofcool Apr 2015 #56

And I'm only a mid level internet operative./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #58

Mine hasn't come, either. okasha Apr 2015 #88

I think it's easier to compile a list of people here who aren't allegedly paid shills for somebody NuclearDem Apr 2015 #34

K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2015 #39

I don't mind. I think it sounds kind of dashing! Adrahil Apr 2015 #41

Not Operatives or Minions Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2015 #48

I agree. I don't support Hillary much. But let's not demean Damansarajaya Apr 2015 #49

Boris and Natasha disagree! Rex Apr 2015 #50

How does it compare to MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #53

Well, having been told that my lack of desire for a Clinton presidency makes me a Paulbot... Scootaloo Apr 2015 #54

Or told repeatedly that Warren isn't running so don't even think about a Warren candidacy Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #96

No worse than what people opposed to Hillary are called here. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #55

this is what I wrote in response to the "operatives" post guillaumeb Apr 2015 #57

Meh daredtowork Apr 2015 #85

Agreed! Scurrilous Apr 2015 #87

well re the nagative comments about HRC... mylye2222 Apr 2015 #90

Perhaps if she is the nominee Skinner will let us have stars for free? n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #91

Posters get called all kinds of names and nasty shit on DU. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #94