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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
9. People keep trotting out this argument
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:44 AM
Apr 2015

and it is moot.

It became moot when the Vichy Democrats REFUSED to filibuster Clarence Thomas and allowed him to have Thurgood Marshall's seat on the court. Thomas was as bad an ideologue as Bork, if not worse, and he was demonstrably, professionally unqualified for the position. Instead of filibustering and holding firm for a more qualified and less partisan nominee, the Dems quickly caved and pissed all over Marshall's legacy.

Without Thomas, Bush v. Gore would almost certainly have gone the other way and the last 15 years would have played out differently.

With the Citizens United ruling, it became game, set and match for the ruling oligarchs. The government, specifically elections, were now for sale to the highest bidder, and the highest bidder sure as Hell wasn't going to be us.

HRC will win in 2016, but it really won''t matter since the Koch's are buying the Congress. Even if she appoints a genuinely liberal justice to the court (as opposed to continuing the policy of appointing justices politically to the right of those they replace), that appointment will not be confirmed by the Koch senate.

Our one chance to roll all this back was that Obama would have lived up to his promises and been a real reform president. Instead he was just another center-right Democrat who sacrificed our liberty on the altar of of pragmatism to the god of bipartisanship. He reaffirmed the Bush police state, propped up its imperial war, and refused to punish Wall Street ghouls feasting on the poor and middle class.

People are now using the SCOTUS as a reason I, and others like me, MUST support a candidate who is well to Obama's right, who voted for Bush's illegal war, and is an absolute tool of Wall Street.

No, not happening.

even more reason to have a candidate to vote for marym625 Apr 2015 #1
I've heard the same arguments for as long as I've been politically active. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #2
What is your opinion of the law enacted by SC? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #4
Can you clarify? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #5
The Citizens United was blessed as a gift from SC. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #8
I assume that's sarcastic. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #10
The point is the justices you complain about were nominated by Republicans. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #17
And confirmed by BOTH parties. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #19
Absolutely true Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #11
yep. and the next election is always the most dire and crucial election there ever was m-lekktor Apr 2015 #13
K & R Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #3
And....? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #7
Again nominated by ? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #18
I'm not asting my time with you any more. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #23
I read you doing the same over and over. No, you will not convince me a republican as president Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #25
Again, confirmed by? merrily Apr 2015 #26
They didn't even ask Scalia many questions. And what were women supposed to make of seating Thomas? merrily Apr 2015 #21
Yeah, we know. Merry Supreme Court and a Happy say hello t President Cruz to you as well. merrily Apr 2015 #6
My choices for president will be Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #15
Elena Kagan would not have been my choice. Neither would Breyer. Only heaven knows what will happen merrily Apr 2015 #20
People keep trotting out this argument Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #9
+1 a shitload LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #12
Thank you for posting that. Hiraeth Apr 2015 #28
pffft. the snarky comment about the Guy Fawkes mask is a jab at activists. m-lekktor Apr 2015 #14
I would edit that comment quickly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #16
Even if it fits that author? merrily Apr 2015 #24
You know what goes on here. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #27
If there was any doubt that they act in concert, a number of posts on this thread removed it. merrily Apr 2015 #29
same old same old. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #30
After a lot of thought about it, no doubt. merrily Apr 2015 #31
The only ones I put on after a single exchange Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Apr 2015 #22
And it won't mean shit unless the Democrats get at least 51 in the Senate. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #32
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