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In reply to the discussion: What did Hillary think after Senator Byrd gave this speech? [View all]TM99
(8,352 posts)I ask this seriously because I would like to even know if you were an adult in the 1990's. How much actual history have you studied?
You make claims that are not factually accurate, so it does make me wonder.
PNAC began in 1997 and dissolved in 2006. During those years, they directly influenced foreign policy both under the Bush administration but yes, also under the the last term of the Clinton administration.
While the Clintons are not signatory members of PNAC (and no one has ever said they were so drop that straw man please!), they have both been influenced greatly by their policies and positions. PNAC signatories wrote letters to both President Clinton and GOP membes of congress to push for regime change in Iraq. Clinton signed HR4655 The Iraq Liberation Act into law in 1998. Not only did PNAC promote regime change, they championed their main foreign policy agenda which is summed up simply as military intervention over diplomatic intervention. Period.
So, yes, both of the Clintons were well aware of the PNAC positions as early as 1998. By signing the ILA in 1998, Clinton gave support to their position. Numerous members of PNAC were made cabinet members of GW Bush upon his selection. So to claim that Clinton did not have all of the information or did not agree with the Iraq regime change being pushed in 2002/2003 is a bald faced lie. She had known for almost 5 years exactly what Bush and his administration intended.
Clinton's tenure at State showed us that she is hawkish and closer in agreement with PNAC (henceforth called what they are which is neo-con) policies than even Obama, who sadly has been far more hawkish than his campaign promised he would be. This was evidenced during her tenure at State particularly on the Syrian situation and her disagreements with Obama in seeking diplomatic solutions with Iran over the nuclear question. She began to publicly break from him with her memoirs and interviews leading up to her 2016 candidacy announcement.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/10/hillary-clinton-splits-with-obama-on-foreign-policy/
On working and partnering with Obama in Iraq - something that was floated by the Obama administration - Clinton said in July that she was "not prepared" to work with Iran.
"I am not prepared to say that we go in with Iran right now, until we have a better idea what we're getting ourselves into," Clinton said during a CNN town hall.
By her own admission she is far closer to the Republican and neo-con hawish military first position than she is a liberal progressive diplomacy first position.
There is no extreme left position. Even Obama voted against Iraq regime change. He decidedly became more neo-con after taking office but his anti-war position was hardly 'extreme left' and was a major part of the Hope & Change that his base elected him on fulfilling.