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randys1

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107. That comment shows so much doesnt it. Without us the 1% have NOTHING

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Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:27 PM

Jul 2015

but you have to think it thru to understand why

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If you are in the 1% you are nothing but an exploiter [View all] WDIM Jul 2015 OP

Do you think only the 1% are exploiters? I see those who take and would like to take more off of Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #1

no comparison WDIM Jul 2015 #10

No, this isn't a republican talking point, this is facts. To think otherwise would be deluding your Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #18

Republican talking points equal facts in the mind of the Bluedog dems. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #76

Went over yiur head? The point was even the homeless exploit others, it isn't the 1% of income and Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #94

ridiculous grasswire Jul 2015 #128

You have carried the meaning of "exploit" to a new now level. ladjf Jul 2015 #146

Tell the writer of the op exploit has been carried to a new level. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #162

Makes you want to throw up reading that stuff on DU, doesnt it. randys1 Jul 2015 #103

I really does. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #105

"The 1% does not need the other 99%"... Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #91

That comment shows so much doesnt it. Without us the 1% have NOTHING randys1 Jul 2015 #107

I'd happily watch a .01%er try to snake out and repair his toilet. Or repair a leak on his yacht. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #151

They would literally die without us doing their work for them. randys1 Jul 2015 #152

IKR! A worker strike is in order. Whaa! How would they get their liver pate?! Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #153

Holy shit! This has got to be some of the most delusional drivel I've ever had the misfortune to Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #177

I did not start the delusion, I did point out several times exploitation is in all income levels. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #185

Was what I quoted above written by you or not? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #186

Ya it is a right wing talking point. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #124

RW talking point, no, just facts. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #210

No it is right wing bullshit PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #212

Who do you think you are impressing? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #214

I was with you until you said panhandler JonLP24 Jul 2015 #12

This panhandler happens to be someone I know personally, there was another case where the family was Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #22

Homeless people take from homeless people JonLP24 Jul 2015 #30

Yes, homeless people steal from each other. The $700 a day was a couple working in different places Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #44

Police investigated and found a fridge full of food? JonLP24 Jul 2015 #57

It was three freezers. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #59

Is that a crime? JonLP24 Jul 2015 #66

The actual crime was cruelty to a child who was pulled crying onto the median to "work" Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #77

this is the case right wingers use against the left so you know snooper2 Jul 2015 #155

It is the truth regarding me JonLP24 Jul 2015 #166

I have a family, and a MIL to take care of- if it's street vs shitty job- snooper2 Jul 2015 #168

I joined the Army to do my best financially to support a family JonLP24 Jul 2015 #173

I was homeless for a year tymorial Jul 2015 #125

This makes my wanna cry "You're invisible. No one wants to see you. They pretend you arent there" randys1 Jul 2015 #127

Me a rightwinger? tymorial Jul 2015 #130

Where did I say that? I dont even recognize your board name randys1 Jul 2015 #131

lol no worries. tymorial Jul 2015 #137

Thank you for this tymorial. I was homeless for almost 2 years.. SummerSnow Jul 2015 #165

I or you JonLP24 Jul 2015 #179

I thought that I included where this came from. tymorial Jul 2015 #180

I saw the name and year at the bottom JonLP24 Jul 2015 #181

Most panhandlers don't make that much. Maybe 2% make even close to that. haele Jul 2015 #41

The point was those who are homeless exploits, people in all incomes and net worth exploits, it is Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #46

If you are discussing the human drive to expoit resources to "get ahead" - that covers everyone. haele Jul 2015 #47

My point was exploitation isn't just in the 1%, it is everywhere, OP did not go to the other 99% Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #52

Yes crime is everywhere among all classes. WDIM Jul 2015 #198

You got the facts wrong. You can be as angry at the 1% as you want, it will not serve you well, Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #207

Not angry, just trying to wake people up to the crimes WDIM Jul 2015 #208

Please point out the crimes. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #209

The leading cause of homeless is the lack of affordable housing JonLP24 Jul 2015 #73

And San Diego is particularly bad for outrageous cost of living. haele Jul 2015 #90

I never said per day JonLP24 Jul 2015 #176

Oh yes because panhandling as you call it is sooooo very easy. tymorial Jul 2015 #102

You missed the point, exploitation happens in every income level. The OP pointed out the 1% income Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #109

I make about $40 to $60 a day working 14 hours a day FrodosPet Jul 2015 #201

Are you talking world 1%ers or USA 1%ers? nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #2

Household income of $388,000 puts one in the top 1% hack89 Jul 2015 #3

Top 1% of wealth not income. WDIM Jul 2015 #19

So your system... booksandpencils Jul 2015 #56

That's what you got out of that? Tell us what you would prefer. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #96

Yes, it is. booksandpencils Jul 2015 #104

Raising taxes on income will only hurt those with "reportable" income. That system sees GE getting rhett o rick Jul 2015 #118

Good plan booksandpencils Jul 2015 #122

You know full well that no one is advocating taking the wealth from the middle and lower classes rhett o rick Jul 2015 #133

I don't support seizure of assets booksandpencils Jul 2015 #150

Define middle class in terms of take home income per year snooper2 Jul 2015 #163

Interesting that you are reluctant to express your opinions, just ask questions. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #187

But if you make $400K a year and have no debts? DFW Jul 2015 #161

Top 1% in income = ~$400K regardless of wealth Major Nikon Jul 2015 #171

Just the 1%? el_bryanto Jul 2015 #4

Top 1% of wealth not income. WDIM Jul 2015 #23

Ah - so this is just envy for the wealthy el_bryanto Jul 2015 #33

No, not true at all. booksandpencils Jul 2015 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Jul 2015 #97

That's a rather creative, unsupported and arbitrary line you've set for moral justice. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #61

I googled and the top 1% have wealth of at least $9 million. gollygee Jul 2015 #64

$9,000,000.00 and they need to keep taking more? WDIM Jul 2015 #196

How about if I win $10 Mill in the lottery? 1939 Jul 2015 #69

Top 1% of net worth is about $8.4 million lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #95

Don't let them get to you. Some here wish to have honest discussions while others rhett o rick Jul 2015 #98

The people who defend the 1% have a delusion WDIM Jul 2015 #197

Some are deluded that those that are included in the 1% (wealth) are successful and rhett o rick Jul 2015 #218

Capitalism is exploitation of labor. Most people posting on this forum are not capitalists, they randys1 Jul 2015 #110

That's ridiculous. The broad brush approach is BS redstateblues Jul 2015 #172

or maybe we just need to adjust our tax system and properly fund services and infrastructure. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #5

^^^This^^^ ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #6

+1 Hekate Jul 2015 #35

And the only way to avoid taxation Warpy Jul 2015 #58

Not always. The 1% (vs. the .01% or .02%) include professionals like doctors who tblue37 Jul 2015 #7

1% of total wealth not income. WDIM Jul 2015 #14

1% of total wealth not income. WDIM Jul 2015 #15

Of course, BUT that is not how most Americans think of the difference between the 1% and the 99%. tblue37 Jul 2015 #16

May I see your income scale to determine at what cutoff a person falls into the 1%? randome Jul 2015 #8

There are some years when I'm in the 1%... meaculpa2011 Jul 2015 #9

Despite what you say about me, I still like you. AngryAmish Jul 2015 #11

Top ten richest members of congress..... Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #13

I bet every one of those voted for the bush tax cut and the bank bailouts. WDIM Jul 2015 #25

Show us your research on all of them, please. I can tell you enjoy divisive pot-stirring. Hekate Jul 2015 #32

Want to know someone who voted AGAINST the Bush Tax Cuts? brooklynite Jul 2015 #55

but she voted for the Iraq War WDIM Jul 2015 #101

That's not why she did it. She did it for political expediency, and almost all politicians do that randys1 Jul 2015 #111

War profiteers and their puppets are the most guilty of all. WDIM Jul 2015 #199

Really? Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy would disagree with you. Arkana Jul 2015 #17

Why? Their families exploited many people. WDIM Jul 2015 #21

And yet there was never a greater champion of the middle class Arkana Jul 2015 #27

And they had rich guilt and wanted to change things WDIM Jul 2015 #36

And you know this how? Some humans have a sense of ethics, morality, caritas, compassion... Hekate Jul 2015 #50

Let's go lower - the impoverished JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #135

JFKs 1963 income tax cut was huge. 1939 Jul 2015 #71

Our tax system is grossly unfair. alarimer Jul 2015 #20

Mortage tax deduction (and all other dedcuctions) do phase out under the current tax code. 1939 Jul 2015 #72

When you come for me, please aim for the head..... brooklynite Jul 2015 #24

Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are exploiters WDIM Jul 2015 #34

"If I made more money then (sic) I needed I would give it away" A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #65

The unknown cannot be worse than the known. WDIM Jul 2015 #100

You've been here for 7 years, we have never interacted and STILL I get the same tired bullshit. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #126

The wealthy are the true criminals in this country. AlbertCat Jul 2015 #139

... A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #143

What utter bullshit. Recursion Jul 2015 #154

So generous 1939 Jul 2015 #75

Do you own a computer? philosslayer Jul 2015 #87

Some exploiters are better than others, I think aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2015 #26

Does the 1% include .... clarice Jul 2015 #28

You mean like the Kennedys? Like Bill Gates? A few others I could mention. Broad brush.... Hekate Jul 2015 #29

If you seized all those assets and distributed to everyone, it wouldn't be a lot per person. PLUS, Hoyt Jul 2015 #31

Globally the 1% starts at about $28k / yr; by wealth it's about $350K Recursion Jul 2015 #37

In our little section of the globe, 28k isn't exactly a lot of money. But we do have refrigerators Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #78

That was his "Foxnews" point. Rex Jul 2015 #82

Wealthy people always hate being reminded of it (nt) Recursion Jul 2015 #136

Yep, if you have a microwave then the Koch Bros say you should stop whining about randys1 Jul 2015 #113

Global microwave ownership is about 20% Recursion Jul 2015 #141

This is the reasoning the Koch types keep using, sad to see it here though at DU randys1 Jul 2015 #142

"The Kochs say it" is not an argument Recursion Jul 2015 #144

Nonsense...Koch talking points wont work here....try again randys1 Jul 2015 #145

Snort Recursion Jul 2015 #147

Yes, we do. Americans don't like hearing how rich we are Recursion Jul 2015 #134

. Rex Jul 2015 #80

Guys in Beverly Hills talk about how $500k isn't "really" rich there Recursion Jul 2015 #138

Who do you envision dumbcat Jul 2015 #38

The people. nt. WDIM Jul 2015 #49

LOL! dumbcat Jul 2015 #115

I reject the idea of forced redistribution utterly and completely Godhumor Jul 2015 #39

Why? We are forced to redistribute all the time. Every time Halliburton wins a no-bid Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #81

Forfeiting assets and forced seizure, as the OP suggests, is what I'm talking about Godhumor Jul 2015 #89

In the last 40 years the wealth of the middle and lower classes was redistributed to the rhett o rick Jul 2015 #99

The OP is not talking about tax structure Godhumor Jul 2015 #106

Seems we have little choice but fantasy. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #116

So you reject taxes and welfare? are you sure you're on the right board. WDIM Jul 2015 #200

Don't pretend you're talking about taxes or government spending Godhumor Jul 2015 #203

For the criminals they should have their assets seized. WDIM Jul 2015 #205

Bernie Sanders is worth $330,507 as of 2013. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #40

Yes, politicians live off other people. WDIM Jul 2015 #48

You heard it here first, folks! Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #60

That doesn't put him in the top 1% by a long shot gollygee Jul 2015 #63

Waste of time, the few 'progressives' here defending the actual Owners have no clue Rex Jul 2015 #83

I'm not the one who picked "the 1%" as a meme Recursion Jul 2015 #148

Gonna have a hard time passing constitutional muster taught_me_patience Jul 2015 #42

No, no, no...this is when the MASSES rise up and overthrow the system... brooklynite Jul 2015 #53

Civil Asset Forfeiture WDIM Jul 2015 #54

Problem is most of what the capitalists have, while surely stolen, is legal, because they randys1 Jul 2015 #129

what they do is against the law or use to be. now just not enforced. WDIM Jul 2015 #170

I'm all those things!?! Cool! BKH70041 Jul 2015 #43

Occupy was right, you are wrong. stevenleser Jul 2015 #45

I agree this cant be an us vs them thing at this point, it is too far gone. randys1 Jul 2015 #132

In some cases, but then there's Hollywood and Silicon Valley money. . . ucrdem Jul 2015 #62

Asset seizures? OK comrade LittleBlue Jul 2015 #67

We tried communism? No, as Dr. Richard Wolff tells it, the early 20th century communism Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #88

DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2015 #70

So once we eliminate the current 1%, what do we do with the next 1%? Throd Jul 2015 #74

Think of the rich people! Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #92

At what point does the mob stop seizing assets? Throd Jul 2015 #93

Get rid of capitalism and you wont have a 1%... randys1 Jul 2015 #120

That isn't how math works. Throd Jul 2015 #121

Huh? Without capitalism that is exactly how math works. randys1 Jul 2015 #123

Ummm... you'll always have a richest 1% Recursion Jul 2015 #156

Technically I guess the 1% could have two tv's while the 99% have one, but as to the kind randys1 Jul 2015 #157

The USSR managed some pretty hefty inequality without capitalism Recursion Jul 2015 #158

Corruption randys1 Jul 2015 #159

Yes the parasitic class (they hate that btw) has gone from that annoying flea bite Rex Jul 2015 #79

And if they would have they probably could have played the game largely unencumbered Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #84

Truer words have never been spoken. Rex Jul 2015 #86

Their level of crime has become so blatant WDIM Jul 2015 #202

"have their assets seized and redistributed to all the people" < ROFL jtuck004 Jul 2015 #85

It is rigged not voluntary. WDIM Jul 2015 #204

So if you spend a lot BainsBane Jul 2015 #108

Yep booksandpencils Jul 2015 #117

What if Bernie Sanders and his wife, by dint of hard work and careful investment over decades, pnwmom Jul 2015 #112

As long as we have any form of mixed system including an Douglas Carpenter Jul 2015 #114

$400,000 even with no debt, is not the 1%. Sunlei Jul 2015 #119

Where's Mao when you need him? AlbertCat Jul 2015 #140

Stir up some shit. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #149

When I was 14 I started working odd jobs. Glassunion Jul 2015 #160

What if you and Ms Union moved out? brooklynite Jul 2015 #169

Our retirement plans are simple. Glassunion Jul 2015 #174

Monetary or intelligence? seveneyes Jul 2015 #164

Not at all. Someone can have a lot of wealth from good works. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #167

They are a Rentier Class (see the French Revolution) daredtowork Jul 2015 #175

You're setting the bar to low. The 1/1,000,000'ers Taitertots Jul 2015 #178

Your last one would devastate the country and lead to total economic stagnation. Calista241 Jul 2015 #183

Nothing supports your assertion/opinion Taitertots Jul 2015 #188

Yeah, well, I'm just glad you're not in charge. Calista241 Jul 2015 #194

None of those jobs would disappear if liability followed ownership Taitertots Jul 2015 #195

The last one is a HORRIBLE idea Recursion Jul 2015 #184

So society should underwrite corporate failure? GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #189

Absolutely. That's what bankruptcy is. Recursion Jul 2015 #190

Nothing is stopping them from failing again and again Taitertots Jul 2015 #191

Your idea would let debt from Business A follow to Business B Recursion Jul 2015 #192

Untrue. Debts from Business A go to the owner, not business B Taitertots Jul 2015 #193

And the owner owns business B, which can be liquidated by the creditors (nt) Recursion Jul 2015 #220

Why not auctioned off PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #221

My guess is get the red out Jul 2015 #182

Lets begin with the War Profiteers! WDIM Jul 2015 #206

Come and get it, R.A. Ganoush Jul 2015 #211

Enjoy your stay PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #213

how do you live with the guilt? WDIM Jul 2015 #215

moles do not have any guilt. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #216

I'm really hoping for an answer. WDIM Jul 2015 #217

I should have said R.A. Ganoush Jul 2015 #219