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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
18. Politifact lies continually. They are known for this.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:54 AM
Aug 2015

Are people not aware of the fact "Politifact" is on a mission to lie about Democrats and liberals?

It's been this way for a while now.


In January 2012, commentators such as Maddow and Daily Kos criticized PolitiFact for rating a statement in President Obama's State of the Union Address about private sector job growth as "Half True" despite acknowledging that the statement was factually correct. PolitiFact initially rated it this way because his statement appeared to imply that his policies were responsible for the job growth, but after further review, PolitiFact upgraded the rating to "Mostly True" after concluding that Obama wasn't crediting his own policies as strongly as first thought.[5]


In February 2010, PolitiFact.com rated President Obama's statement that the Recovery Act had saved or created 2 million jobs in the United States as "half true", stating that the real figure was 1 million according to several independent studies.[31] Economist Brian Riedl of the conservative Heritage Foundation responded that such a statement "belongs in an opinion editorial – not a fact check", since "there is no way to determine how the economy would have performed without a stimulus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact.com

Politifact's 2011 "Lie of the Year" was the Democratic characterization of a Republican plan to replace Medicare with private vouchers as "the end of Medicare as we know it."

Because a private voucher system would totally be just like "Medicare," if you are insane.

One version of the claim came from U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius: "Instead of improving Medicare, they would end Medicare as we know it."

Liberals reacted in anger against PolitiFact, including writers from Talking Points Memo and Slate, as well as New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, who wrote a blog post titled "Politifact, R.I.P." MSNBC's Rachel Maddow also criticized the announcement Tuesday night.

"The self-proclaimed but quickly-becoming-irrelevant website PolitiFact declared the idea that Republicans voted to end Medicare their 'Lie of the Year' for 2011," she said.

She argued PolitiFact had its own facts wrong.

"But make no mistake — what the Republicans have proposed is actually ending Medicare," Maddow said.


http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2011/12/22/144136535/with-lie-of-the-year-controversy-fact-checking-comes-under-scrutiny

In 2013, Politifact attacked Martina Navratilova's entirely true statement that "in 29 states in this country you can still get fired for not just being gay but if your employer thinks you are gay," speciously reasoning that federal workers and some municipalities have some protections in those states.

They called Navratilova's entirely true statement "half true" based on this nonsense.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/05/08/rachel-maddow-pans-politifact-again/

http://wonkette.com/515444/politifact-why-is-martina-navratilova-lying-by-saying-all-these-true-things

Politifact is full of shit.

And repealing Glass-Steagall, along with a raft of other de-regulation, contributed signficantly to the Wall Street mortgage-backed securities scam that drained $4 trillion in middle-class wealth out of people's homes and into their pockets.
This won't end well... Agschmid Aug 2015 #1
the good fight is the right fight ericson00 Aug 2015 #2
K & R Iliyah Aug 2015 #3
No it wasn't the edhopper Aug 2015 #4
take it up with Politifact ericson00 Aug 2015 #5
I read it edhopper Aug 2015 #7
Yet Politifact seems to agree that the repeal of Glass Steagall made the crisis worse: think Aug 2015 #9
This is the game being played. DirkGently Aug 2015 #28
one question- why did all 44 Democratic members of the Senate vote against it...... virtualobserver Aug 2015 #6
ummm it passed the Senate 90-8 and 37 out of 44 Senate Dems voted yes ericson00 Aug 2015 #8
"making up"....I'm talking about the Senate version of the bill.... virtualobserver Aug 2015 #10
I gave you the link to the Senate vote, the final vote, the only one that mattered ericson00 Aug 2015 #11
I think that the prophetic words of John Dingell are the only words that matter virtualobserver Aug 2015 #13
Oops. There goes that meme. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #15
Good ol numbers, no spin ericson00 Aug 2015 #30
Wow, there's an enormous difference between saying it was the 'sole linchpin' of economic stablity Marr Aug 2015 #12
its center-right??? Oh yes because its not far-left ericson00 Aug 2015 #14
I've been waiting GummyBearz Aug 2015 #16
I'm hoping to see the same. Good point. Marr Aug 2015 #23
Again, if it was 'meaningless', why spend political capital repealing it? Marr Aug 2015 #17
They gave Obama a "false" for claiming the Republicans wanted to end Medicare jeff47 Aug 2015 #22
Politifact consistently smears Obama. Center-Right enough for you? DirkGently Aug 2015 #34
Politifact lies continually. They are known for this. DirkGently Aug 2015 #18
The article admits the repeal made the crisis worse. To be clear Bernie Sanders voted AGAINST think Aug 2015 #19
Good freaking question. DirkGently Aug 2015 #37
tell me why John Dingell was wrong about this bill virtualobserver Aug 2015 #20
This isn't even good revisionist history. marmar Aug 2015 #21
So Politifact confirmed that Bill Clinton incinerated a strawman. jeff47 Aug 2015 #24
Clinton backers are having a tough time keeping all those plates spinning on those poles! Scuba Aug 2015 #25
Politifact? hahahahaha Fact Check Them n/t fredamae Aug 2015 #26
EarlG thinks Politifact is OK, ericson00 Aug 2015 #46
I don't find them to be so fredamae Aug 2015 #47
It was Clinton's Commodities Futures Modernization Act, Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #27
+++ Outstanding post. n/t DirkGently Aug 2015 #29
"smash and grab" is exactly right! nashville_brook Aug 2015 #33
The way you are blaming Clinton (Clinton's Commodi....) Darb Aug 2015 #43
Did Clinton sign it? Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #45
kicking for exposure frylock Aug 2015 #31
blahahaha! nashville_brook Aug 2015 #32
Kicking for exposure of kick for exposure. DirkGently Aug 2015 #39
Sure it was whittled down. That's not the point. mmonk Aug 2015 #35
those things were all happening anyway and would've happened ericson00 Aug 2015 #36
And yet they didn't happen until de-regulation, which DirkGently Aug 2015 #38
Poor OP, got owned many times and refuses to answer those that did it! Rex Aug 2015 #41
This is a critical issue for Hillary Clinton DirkGently Aug 2015 #42
Got owned and you won't reply to the ones that did it! Rex Aug 2015 #40
politifact already did. I'm not gonna dignify the "attack the fact-checker" people ericson00 Aug 2015 #44
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