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155. Indeed-- I never heard Krugman come out for the TPP and I read him religiously

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The Final Leaked TPP Text is All That We Feared [View all] KamaAina Oct 2015 OP

Obama sold us out. Hillary helped. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #1

Eeyup. nt hifiguy Oct 2015 #2

Correction... is helping. Fearless Oct 2015 #15

+1 MissDeeds Oct 2015 #38

Keep up with the news. Hillary opposed the TPP riversedge Oct 2015 #53

Two or three days ago she decided she opposed it "today" dflprincess Oct 2015 #55

Hillary had to respect Obama, she waited until it was finished: We only have one President at time! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #107

And if she's the nominee, she will need our votes dflprincess Oct 2015 #136

TPP enid602 Oct 2015 #153

She opposed it the minute she said she opposed it. That's all we can count on. cui bono Oct 2015 #57

Lol! So predictable. So dishonest. Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #66

Apparently, "the gold standard of trade agreements" Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #85

Bwahahahaha! Best joke I've heard this morning! Fearless Oct 2015 #67

She claimed she didn't like that it would costs us jobs! Hey... H-1B ALSO costs us jobs!!! cascadiance Oct 2015 #78

It's often expedient during a political campaign sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #98

...^ that 840high Oct 2015 #39

+1 davidpdx Oct 2015 #45

Same team. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #83

so disappointed in Krugman Doctor_J Oct 2015 #3

So if you are for or support the TPP you are no longer a liberal???? nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #6

well that's feasible of course Doctor_J Oct 2015 #10

Liberalism has only been a feel-good thing Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #42

I'll go with yes. Anyone who supports the TPP is not economically liberal Fearless Oct 2015 #16

Agree. ananda Oct 2015 #21

Do you always base your labels on things you haven't seen? Egnever Oct 2015 #22

Sorta like the PATRIOT act, huh? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #25

. Egnever Oct 2015 #71

Let's stop this charade, shall we? We know quite a bit about what's in it Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #32

+1 daleanime Oct 2015 #47

What you said... Thespian2 Oct 2015 #50

well said. k and r bbgrunt Oct 2015 #59

So what? Egnever Oct 2015 #63

So far, all I've heard in support is spin from people with agendas Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #76

+1 Scuba Oct 2015 #86

Bravo ctsnowman Oct 2015 #95

LOL Egnever Oct 2015 #132

Why thank you for that wonderful complement, Egnever Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #137

Oh good lord Egnever Oct 2015 #140

Oh, great cosmic oneness Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #143

Spot on response! n/t markpkessinger Oct 2015 #80

I'd go further than that. SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #84

+1000. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #88

Let me guess... n'th dimensional super crazy amazing chess and we wee pawns could never understand? Fearless Oct 2015 #36

Probably not Egnever Oct 2015 #62

The vast majority of this board was correct in their assessment is the ACA Fearless Oct 2015 #68

LOL Egnever Oct 2015 #72

You're joking?? Fearless Oct 2015 #73

The thing is we are not ignorant about the TPP. There are lots of clues to make us skeptical. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #112

Clue are spin sent to you by people trying to get clicks Egnever Oct 2015 #134

Why should I trust corporations building an agreement in secret. Not secret from corporations rhett o rick Oct 2015 #138

Who is asking you to trust anything? Egnever Oct 2015 #141

Do you have a link to where it says it will be published in a few weeks for all to see? rhett o rick Oct 2015 #150

November 7th. randome Oct 2015 #154

Thank you. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #156

Okay we will use Hillary's words. "From what I know today" jwirr Oct 2015 #115

As Granny D said Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #30

Of course. Being liberal means standing for certain things so when there is policy that crushes cui bono Oct 2015 #58

Any "liberal" with investments in Wall St. raouldukelives Oct 2015 #96

More than likely they were never a liberal. What one thing in the TPP will help the 99%. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #111

People love Krugman when he supports their position. I think his latest opinion on TPP Hoyt Oct 2015 #14

Krugman is a Dem :therefore not Sanders supporter lewebley3 Oct 2015 #108

Wut? hifiguy Oct 2015 #119

so none of the millions of Sanders supporters are dems? Doctor_J Oct 2015 #124

Oh my neverforget Oct 2015 #142

Uh...he's described himself as a lukewarm opponent of the TPP jeff47 Oct 2015 #120

Indeed-- I never heard Krugman come out for the TPP and I read him religiously Fast Walker 52 Oct 2015 #155

When was he a liberal? truedelphi Oct 2015 #126

I've long suspected he was an establishment tool n/t whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #131

But But Our Worlds bestest President was gonna fix it all!! n2doc Oct 2015 #4

He's going to fix it all in his third term. Besides, the Republicans are making him do it. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #90

What is BELIEVED to be the final version. I'll read it first. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #5

The crowning achievement of 35 years of reaganbushonomics. Done by Democrats, SAD! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #7

No. They are not Democrats. pangaia Oct 2015 #11

Corporacrats. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #13

There's a shock. nt TBF Oct 2015 #8

kick tk2kewl Oct 2015 #9

It is the leak of "what is believed to be the 'essentially final version'" of one chapter. pampango Oct 2015 #12

Just because we are told that Big Pharma and Big Tobacco are unhappy with the JDPriestly Oct 2015 #24

The same scheme was used to pass the Patriot Act. Rush it through before any discussion. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #91

"Let's see the final text. I bet it is far, far more generous to Big Pharma, Big Tobacco, Big every pampango Oct 2015 #100

What is so terrible about supporting intellectual property rights? pnwmom Oct 2015 #17

This extends that protection to their third-generation descendents. KamaAina Oct 2015 #18

Other forms of property, such as real estate and personal property, pnwmom Oct 2015 #19

"We stand on the shoulders of giants..." daleanime Oct 2015 #48

You can allude to the giants without plagiarizing them. pnwmom Oct 2015 #49

Under our current system..... daleanime Oct 2015 #56

No, and that is my point. I'm fine with the current system. I disagree with those pnwmom Oct 2015 #61

So are you saying that you support the TPP? If you do, please let us know why. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #64

I don't know what's in the final TPP, do you? Wikileaks has supposedly pnwmom Oct 2015 #70

Those that have seen parts of it are in two camps. One camp says that there isn't rhett o rick Oct 2015 #110

Paul Krugman is now leaning toward favoring it, and he's on the side of the 99%. pnwmom Oct 2015 #118

Not too many that I know.... daleanime Oct 2015 #101

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Yes. And Article I, section 8 of our Constitution authorizes OUR CONGRESS JDPriestly Oct 2015 #27

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t truedelphi Oct 2015 #125

Copyrights are not the problem davidpdx Oct 2015 #44

The TPP is a corporate coup. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #20

This....Thanks for saying it so clearly!!! haikugal Oct 2015 #29

Bravo! hifiguy Oct 2015 #34

Yes...and hopefully all the work that's gone into defeating it will hold.. KoKo Oct 2015 #37

+1 Hissyspit Oct 2015 #41

+1 davidpdx Oct 2015 #43

Elizabeth Warren said it perfectly. Fuddnik Oct 2015 #79

+1 GoneFishin Oct 2015 #92

+1 daleanime Oct 2015 #102

Intellectual property... Historic NY Oct 2015 #23

Are you joking? No one should have copyrights on information or ideas that JDPriestly Oct 2015 #28

In all seriousness, the manipulation of copyright terms can be laid at the feet hifiguy Oct 2015 #35

If copyrights were eternal, Disney would have been violating some big ones when JDPriestly Oct 2015 #54

Purely accidental, I am sure. hifiguy Oct 2015 #74

In that vein... CanSocDem Oct 2015 #99

Did you write or create the manuscript in 1910? JDPriestly Oct 2015 #51

Thank you KamaAina for pulling the first loose thread. I think crowd sourcing the reading and GoneFishin Oct 2015 #26

I'm sure the corporate apologists will be here soon... blackspade Oct 2015 #31

They beat you to it. KamaAina Oct 2015 #46

Curses! blackspade Oct 2015 #75

Hey! That's been used before! KansDem Oct 2015 #93

Under the TTP your probably right! blackspade Oct 2015 #104

K & R historylovr Oct 2015 #33

I Think Cenk Uyger Of The Young Turks Was Right All Along... WillyT Oct 2015 #40

K & R AzDar Oct 2015 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Oct 2015 #60

US tech and Hollywood should be pleased. joshcryer Oct 2015 #65

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We need to "Trump call" our reps and tell them if they vote for TPP cascadiance Oct 2015 #77

It doesn't matter. RichVRichV Oct 2015 #122

New Leak of Final TPP Text Confirms Attack on Freedom of Expression, Public Health eridani Oct 2015 #81

And yet they won't explain what that 'grave threat to global freedom of expression' derives from. randome Oct 2015 #94

Trust Wikileaks YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #114

I don't think they have the energy to have an agenda. randome Oct 2015 #116

The only possible agenda I've ever seen from Wikileaks is ego. RichVRichV Oct 2015 #123

There was the 'Collateral Murder' video they doctored and tried to pass off. randome Oct 2015 #146

Based on other "trade" agreements, you should be afraid. eridani Oct 2015 #144

So if a court doesn't rule against a company 100% of the time, the TPP is bad? randome Oct 2015 #145

A goddam fucking UNELECTED corporate-appointed tribunal should not make these decisions eridani Oct 2015 #147

I'm 57 and I have NO retirement funds. randome Oct 2015 #148

Arbitration is loaded in favor of corporations eridani Oct 2015 #149

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #82

Obama's most recent betrayal. Scuba Oct 2015 #87

Big surprise there... Helen Borg Oct 2015 #89

TPP, ISDS & The End of Democracy Babel_17 Oct 2015 #97

Very good information. Thanks. nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #106

Exceptionally Brilliant. truedelphi Oct 2015 #128

Lol, wait, the guy in the video ... Babel_17 Oct 2015 #135

If Hillary or a republican is elected, this will be just the tip of the iceberg. Zorra Oct 2015 #103

If Hillary is elected: Happy Day will be here again! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #109

The Gold Standard of trade agreements!!!! Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #105

I fail to see the big fuss YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #113

So all those that said they could decide until they saw the completed document are going rhett o rick Oct 2015 #117

I'd like to think that we, as Democrats, also care about how the TPP will impact average people in stillwaiting Oct 2015 #121

With NAFTA the promise was that if we moved jobs to Mexico their standard rhett o rick Oct 2015 #139

Has the final text been published? Egnever Oct 2015 #133

The TPP has, to put it kindly Aerows Oct 2015 #127

Nah, the debate will not bring up The TPP- truedelphi Oct 2015 #129

I'm so fed up with the pandering to the TPP, sometimes I wonder Aerows Oct 2015 #130

Yep! Transparency at its finest. I'm so disappointed with the transparency charade. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #151

The excuses Thomm Hartmann has been questioning Ilsa Oct 2015 #152