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In reply to the discussion: Suppose a group has declared a "safe space" on public property or a place of public accommodation [View all]Orrex
(63,084 posts)84. That's not picking nits--it's essential to the discussion
I suppose if someone wanted to pick nits they could make a claim "private groups" had to be stipulated but I'm not aware of public groups declaring safe spaces.
Are you kidding? Public groups routinely declare safe spaces, both temporary and permanent. I already cited the example of convicted predatory child rapists being barred from a public playground. Public libraries commonly forbid people from cooking meals among the stacks. You can't set off legally obtained fireworks indoors on public property nor serve alcohol in a public elementary school. And if you attempted to shoot a pornographic movie on public grounds where the president is giving a speech, then you can bet you'll be excluded from that safe space in a hurry.
You are attempting to disqualify these public safe spaces solely because they blow your OP out of the water.
There is the Melissa Glick episode at Mizzou where she felt entitled to call for muscle.
Take that up with Ms. Glick; no one in this discussion has endorsed her choice of action. If Ms. Glick's action is indicative of a general trend, then please cite other examples so that we can discuss them; if her action is an isolated (i.e. non-representative) occurrence, then it's intellectually dishonest to hold it up as emblematic of the topic as a whole.
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Suppose a group has declared a "safe space" on public property or a place of public accommodation [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
OP
In other words a permit or rental agreement with a government agency or public institution
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#75
No, my reply is deliberate. If those wanting the privilege of safe spaces cannot define them.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#10
Ah. So you don't actually know what a safe space is, just what you've heard...
Cerridwen
Sep 2016
#12
Are you saying that I can hang out at your campsite at Yellowstone National Park?
jberryhill
Sep 2016
#37
In the OP is specificed public propert and places of public accommodation.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#63
I suppose if someone wanted to pick nits they could make a claim "private groups" had to be
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#74
"the party entering into the agreement is not given license to engage in unlawful activity."
Orrex
Sep 2016
#99
If I obtain a permit to host an Atheists' Club meeting in a pavilion at a public park...
Orrex
Sep 2016
#112
"I suggested an example where such exclusion would be reasonable and permitted."
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#120
Actually, it looks as though he's bothered by something he says doesn't exist.
Cerridwen
Sep 2016
#36
Uh, I didn't offer an answer nor say I had an answer, "correct," correct, or otherwise.
Cerridwen
Sep 2016
#14
Um, this is easy, you use the same bubbles that they have at Safe Space University
snooper2
Sep 2016
#9
Apparently Nuclear Unicorn wants to crawl into your tent at your campsite in Yosemite
jberryhill
Sep 2016
#39
Those institutions granting permits have rules they have to operate under; civil rights law being a
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#46
The hatred for people of color by a small group of mutual congratulators on this forum is remarkable
alcibiades_mystery
Sep 2016
#65
If a convicted predatory child rapist hangs out at a public playground, can he be removed?
Orrex
Sep 2016
#69
The predator had to be charged with a specific misdeed and then convicted.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#73
So, you were totally unaware that's what the OP was referring to. Okay.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#93
That's not really an analagous situation to what is described in the OP.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#124
I'd imagine the same way we reacted to an individual arriving uninvited to a toddler's birthday part
LanternWaste
Sep 2016
#86
"It's not very often that a creep comes into a afternoon buffet restaurant and sits uninvited"
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#91
One example of inclusion does not exonerate every other example of exclusion.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#96
White people don't have a great track record of supporting people of color
loyalsister
Sep 2016
#109
Those who want safe space are free to establish them on private property.
Agnosticsherbet
Sep 2016
#128
Campus organizations have by-laws, charters, scheduled meeting times and places, etc.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#131