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kcr

(15,315 posts)
21. For the most part I agree
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 06:36 AM
Oct 2016

I have no problem with trying to resolve conflicts peacefully from the get-go. Michael Moore's new movie that is out is a perfect example of what I think you're talking about. What I have a problem with is, once the conflict is already in progress - a great big example being the Trump campaign - you're dealing with bad people acting in bad faith, with issues like racism, misogyny and sexual assault. You don't tackle problems like that by finding middle ground. In this case, you have a direct agenda and you very much want people to do what you want. No more racism and more sexual assault per my example. That's a deal breaker. I'm not saying you have to be violently aggressive on the attack, or act in bad faith just like they do. But you have to act knowing that they aren't coming to the table with the same agenda that you are, and I have a problem with people insisting this is the case. It comes across almost victim blaming. It can sound like, "If only you were nicer to the racists and tried to understand them!" Nope. As soon as the vile garbage starts to spew, it's game on, and I will side with right every time. I will never tell victims they have to try to understand the garbage spewers. That's nonsense.

Liberal guilt? [View all] mothra1orbit Oct 2016 OP
LOL Skittles Oct 2016 #1
No, I don't feel sorry for them mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #22
Jay and JFK didn't have to fight misogyny and a corporate media Skittles Oct 2016 #35
Sometimes simply accepting reality can be comforting A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2016 #2
Yeah mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #23
People can be polite and pleasant, but also deeply ignorant, not very bright and.... steve2470 Oct 2016 #3
You're probably right n/t mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #24
Not that we should feel guilty, but we should try to understand. alarimer Oct 2016 #4
In re: understanding pat_k Oct 2016 #13
Thank you mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #25
I have experienced the RW pressure to "change" my mind.. Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #5
Sorry... Don't agree. Adrahil Oct 2016 #6
Schooling.......... MyOwnPeace Oct 2016 #7
they are just racist. there are many people without formal education ergo do not support him JI7 Oct 2016 #9
Either they don't awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #10
"The Trump Question: Are You Listening?" pat_k Oct 2016 #12
See, I think on a personal, individual basis, this is a good idea kcr Oct 2016 #16
Absolutely. No "rolling over' pat_k Oct 2016 #20
For the most part I agree kcr Oct 2016 #21
but do you really think mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #30
They don't dislike the corporations treestar Oct 2016 #17
Trump should jump into the deepest hole on earth... pressbox69 Oct 2016 #15
We are supposed to be guilty for treestar Oct 2016 #18
When Trump supporters, and right wingers in general say things like "You think you're so smart" kcr Oct 2016 #19
I got a great public education LWolf Oct 2016 #28
Trump is running a con, and a con doesn't work unless The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #29
I feel the same about trump supporters as I do about bigfoot hunters bhikkhu Oct 2016 #33
I don't think it's the educational system. GreenEyedLefty Oct 2016 #34
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