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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Rodham Clinton ... [View all]TonyPDX
(962 posts)168. Oh, I believe we can count on some Democrats supporting him. That's a given.
I'm hoping that real leaders like Jeff Merkley will rise up to resist him at every turn.
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No one's ignoring the fact Nance, not at all. Hillary is to be acknowledged and congratulated for winning the popular vote...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#3
Surrogates don't count, sorry, they just don't... folks expect to see their candidate glad handing and EARNING their votes, plain and simple.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#10
That was regrettable for Hillary not to campaign there. It's called taking voters for granted... never a good idea.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#18
Hillary & her fellow high-level campaign associates. Please repudiate this if you can. If you can't,
NBachers
Dec 2016
#72
It's very nice to hear that an educated, strongly self identified and politically active, Democrat
Crunchy Frog
Dec 2016
#240
Exactly. Damned if she does. Damned if she doesn't. Hillary just can't catch a break. eom
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2016
#181
That's inaccurate. The result itself and our loss is huge. Hers, not so much to be truthful.
bettyellen
Dec 2016
#88
soooo, voter suppression tactics, questionable machines, russian interference, none of these
niyad
Dec 2016
#175
In 2013 Supreme Court decision which struck down a key provision in the voters rights act.
still_one
Dec 2016
#73
Yes, it's just the way the rules are written - as unfair as that may be - so, it's best to play AND STRATEGIZE, according to the rules...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#14
Thank you TVO, you said it a HELL of a lot better than I did above. The sooner people wake up to these facts, instead of ignoring them, the sooner we can get on to winning back the Presidency.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#21
The electricity that should have surrounded her candidacy was pretty squelched in 2008
LisaM
Dec 2016
#191
"claiming that an antiquated "establishment" system like the EC should take precedence"
MadDAsHell
Dec 2016
#190
The reason why small states have more clout is because the framers of the Constitution had to
totodeinhere
Dec 2016
#231
Why are you repeating Trumpian talking-points that "California Doesn't Count?"
emulatorloo
Dec 2016
#170
Yes! All this shit to attack one fine woman who would have done and outstanding job as president.
Madam45for2923
Dec 2016
#117
That's right, Madam.. and this.. the gop have been working on Voter Suppression for years
Cha
Dec 2016
#136
Or... If 80,000 people in those three states weren't quite as fucking stupid, she would have won
world wide wally
Dec 2016
#25
We won the Senate PV by 11 points nationally and lost 22 of 24 elections to R incumbents
BeyondGeography
Dec 2016
#47
Midwesterners cannot figure out that the ACA helped them, rather like a New Deal program
Kolesar
Dec 2016
#140
Honestly, I think the magic moment that threw the election to the Con was Comey's
napi21
Dec 2016
#54
You wonder why? Its really simple. The criticism you hear is due to her losing the election.
aikoaiko
Dec 2016
#68
Some people are saying the few most popullous states should choose the POTUS
jack_krass
Dec 2016
#98
My bad then :) But I think the EC is screaming at us to broaden the message and win more
jack_krass
Dec 2016
#128
I'd pretend that to be the case as well if I too had difficulty following basic English conversation
LanternWaste
Dec 2016
#111
They want to use Clinton's "loss" as an excuse to dismantle the party leadership
baldguy
Dec 2016
#95
and the EC was designed to protect the slave-holding landowner class, a fact that is forgotten
niyad
Dec 2016
#177
All this shit to attack one fine woman who would have done and outstanding job as president.
Madam45for2923
Dec 2016
#119
It's not right, it's not fair, and I absolutely hate it, but currently it's the rules of the game.
Crunchy Frog
Dec 2016
#120
Whats this chart trying to say? California is a very, very populpus state, ...
jack_krass
Dec 2016
#167
At best, HRC won (popular vote). At worst, she lost an exaggerated tie (electoral college).
no_hypocrisy
Dec 2016
#152
If the EV/popular votet totals were reversed, you'd be singing a different tune.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2016
#153
It certainly has been a bizarre election cycle, starting way way back when outsiders decided....
George II
Dec 2016
#157
I think it keeps coming back to her being a 68 year old woman who thought she was
ehrnst
Dec 2016
#216