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Denzil_DC

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26. Let me entertain this for just a moment, since you're so serious and political and all.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:47 AM
Nov 2017

How can voters choose to demand it in a constitutional monarchy?

All our MPs have to swear allegiance to the Queen:

I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.


They can't take their seats at Westminster to vote in parliament unless they do (e.g. Sinn Fein).

Holding an election (please don't suggest a referendum ... we don't do those very well) has to be OK'd by the Queen, so it would be a little bit awkward for the prime minister of the day to go to the palace and say to Her Majesty: "We want to hold an election, ma'am. Oh, by the way, part of our platform is we're going to get rid of you."

If she even agrees and the party promising to set the wheels in motion to do that wins (if you think Brexit's complicated, you ain't seen nothing yet, as the monarchy's embedded in our legal system, armed forces etc.), it's back to:

All our MPs have to swear allegiance to the Queen:

I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.


They can't take their seats at Westminster to vote in parliament unless they do (e.g. Sinn Fein).

Then there's the House of Lords, which has to pass any legislation. We can't vote them in or out (there have been some noises at various times about moving to some sort of senate system, but nothing serious, as it benefits the parties in power to be able to nominate non-hereditary peers).

Tell me about democracy again?
I wish them all the best. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #1
They/anti-democratic parasites UTUSN Nov 2017 #2
oh my steve2470 Nov 2017 #3
I didn't join the Royalist Underground, but am breaking my own rule of skipping UTUSN Nov 2017 #6
Is someone forcing the British electorate to maintain a monarchy? brooklynite Nov 2017 #10
did you mean to reply to me ? steve2470 Nov 2017 #12
We've never had a vote on it. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #14
...and that's because your elected representatives (Lib, Lab and Cons) have chosen not to have one brooklynite Nov 2017 #15
Why? And why's it matter to you anyway? You like them so much, you can have them!. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #17
This is a political blog; we talk about politics here. brooklynite Nov 2017 #19
Really? Dang. I hadn't noticed. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #22
I could care less whether there's a monarchy or not... brooklynite Nov 2017 #25
Let me entertain this for just a moment, since you're so serious and political and all. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #26
I didn't realize the monarchy was so embedded in the UK system, but it makes perfect sense steve2470 Nov 2017 #27
Oh yeah. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #33
Luckily, you don t have a Constitution... brooklynite Nov 2017 #34
Yes, we do have a constitution. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #37
Excellent post malaise Nov 2017 #38
Other monarchies have cooler monarchs Retrograde Nov 2017 #16
Lol. cwydro Nov 2017 #31
She has served her country for many many years. cwydro Nov 2017 #32
70 years is quite an accomplishment. tammywammy Nov 2017 #4
God bless Her Majesty and Prince Philip Glorfindel Nov 2017 #5
President Obama was the 12th US president during her reign... Princess Turandot Nov 2017 #7
The Queen is looking well. roamer65 Nov 2017 #8
I don't if it's me, but Phillip looks a little "off" LeftInTX Nov 2017 #9
Nah, that's just how he looks. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #13
Weren't they planning for his passing just just a couple months ago? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #23
He's officially retired from public appearances, only the odd exceptional one nowadays. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #24
Love! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ NurseJackie Nov 2017 #11
And she drinks four cocktails a day. kskiska Nov 2017 #18
She can because she doesn't have to worry about driving FakeNoose Nov 2017 #20
that's a great gif lol nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #21
I wonder how her liver is holding out. Four alcoholic drinks a day? CTyankee Nov 2017 #35
70 years..wow MFM008 Nov 2017 #28
I Guess We Know RobinA Nov 2017 #30
That is a lovely photograph of them. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #36
She has been a formidable person for a lifetime and OnDoutside Nov 2017 #29
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