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muriel_volestrangler

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10. I'd like him to back up his claim that immigration wasn't the reason for the Leave vote
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:13 AM
Nov 2017
The 'Leave' campaign campaigned primarily on issues relating to sovereignty and migration whereas the remain campaign focused on the economic impacts of leaving the EU. This choice of key positions is significant since Ipsos MORI survey data on which issues Britons felt to be 'important issues facing Britain today' shows that immediately prior to the vote, more people cited both the EU (32%) and migration (48%) as important issues than cited the economy (27%).

Sovereignty

On the day of the referendum Lord Ashcroft's polling team questioned 12,369 people who had completed voting This poll produced data that showed that 'Nearly half (49%) of leave voters said the biggest single reason for wanting to leave the European Union was “the principle that decisions about the UK should be taken in the UK”.

Immediately prior to the vote, Ipsos MORI data showed that Europe was the third most highly ranked problem by Britons who were asked to name the most important issues facing the country, with 32% of respondents naming it as an issue.

Immigration

Lord Ashcroft's election day poll of 12,369 voters also discovered that 'One third (33%) [of leave voters] said the main reason was that leaving “offered the best chance for the UK to regain control over immigration and its own borders.”'

Immediately prior to the referendum data from Ipsos-Mori showed that immigration/migration was the most cited issue when Britons were asked 'What do you see as the most/other important issue facing Britain today?' with 48% of respondents mentioning it when surveyed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_vote_in_favour_of_Brexit

Immigration is always there in the top reasons, and if you ask the Leavers what they want sovereignty over, it's usually "immigration". But the writer claims "opinion surveys do not support the view that European immigration was the dominant, or even a principal, concern for most Leave voters", and I think he's just wrong on that. And as he says, the single market demands free movement of labour too, and that's why May is trying to get a deal without single market membership. She knows the right wing vote will tear her apart if she keeps free movement.
Unfortunately, Brexit itself is the train wreck. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #1
There has to come a point where the Pro-EU Tories stand up, or that train will crash. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #3
They're set on respecting the referendum Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #5
That's only a smokescreen, the Tories have been split OnDoutside Nov 2017 #8
Corbyn doesn't help, either. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #11
Yes, that's true. The Labour Party really got unlucky with this clutz. The ONLY positive was his OnDoutside Nov 2017 #13
There's a lot of blame to go around on this disaster Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #15
There's enough information at this stage for them to see that it is a disaster. In that climate, OnDoutside Nov 2017 #17
Nice is actually one of the arguments against it in a Leaver's mind. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #19
Looks like the Irish government won't collapse, as Frances Fitzgerald OnDoutside Nov 2017 #20
Indeed. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #21
One thing we will have to face up to is that 45 years into the EU, we still have so much of OnDoutside Nov 2017 #22
Where's Cameron? moondust Nov 2017 #2
On a beach far far away, if i were him ! OnDoutside Nov 2017 #4
Surfing in Malibu Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #6
The only way out is electing a PM who has credibility with the EU and a mandate to stop Brexit Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #7
I visited Ireland and North Ireland last year grantcart Nov 2017 #9
Yes and no Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #12
Apparently the veto is only allowed at this stage of the negotiations. If they all vote to move it OnDoutside Nov 2017 #14
The election nobody wants is just weird. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #16
They all fear getting the blame for causing it ! OnDoutside Nov 2017 #18
I'd like him to back up his claim that immigration wasn't the reason for the Leave vote muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #10
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