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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
43. You're missing something...
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:26 AM
Mar 2015

Oh, here it is!

Judging from the video...


Also this exchange:

it appears to me that quite a bit happened before the video started

Both windows of the shul doors are already broken at the beginning of the video. In the beginning of the video someone throws a chair through the open door. Where did the chair come from? Probably from inside the shul, so it's likely that the shul was attacked and invaded, and then the perps were repelled back outside, that's when the video starts.


Yeah, it's clearly not a thorough documentation or anything

Going on the dialogue and shown actions though, it definitely looks like it's a personal thing between Furry Hoodie guy and the two outside It looks like the sort of thing you'd find on World Star.


I can go by what I see. and what I see resembles any number of testosterone fights I saw in high school. Is that the whole situation? of course not. This is something i agree with Mosby on. I try to not agree with Mosby about anything, it seems unhealthy. But yes, there's absolutely more that the video does not show.

Now, to your post...

You blamed the Jew in the hoodie for "clearly trying to provoke and prolong the situation" and "goading the people outside."


Well, that's exactly what he's doing. I've been that guy. He's doing what you do, when you want someone to charge over and try to beat your ass, because you think you can beat theirs.

Maybe you're not familiar with the world of brawling. And kudos to you for that, I don't recommend gaining familiarity.

Again, this is defensible only if you deliberately choose to pretend that there had been no invasion.


It's because they're being attacked that I criticism him, because what he's doing is trying to keep the attack going so he can "prove" what a little badass he is. Of course the blame lies with the assholes outside, I'm simply noting that yelling at them to keep attacking is going to encourage them to, you know, keep attacking. Without Mouthy Mario motherfucker, maybe they'd keep it up anyway. Maybe they'd wander off in their drunken stupor. I don't know. I do know he's not helping the situation and is contributing to the other people's risk.

No mention of their violent invasion of the synagogue. In your version of events, the mouthy Jew in the synagogue picked a fight with these guys and 'provoked' and "goaded" them into a violent reaction.


Where did I say he picked the fight? I didn't, nor did I imply it. I said he's trying to prolong the fight, because, well, he is.

And there it is--only three guilty parties! Even though a party of SIX people violently invaded the synagogue. But in your view, most of the invaders were blameless, and indeed just innocent victims trying to smooth over a dispute you viewed as being largely driven by a mouthy Jew.


I'm afraid that must be your view, geek, 'cause it's not mine.

In my view is a video where two assholes are attacking the door of a synagogue, while a handfull of other mooks mill around outside mostly being useless but occasionally making gestures of holding those idiots back. Inside are a bunch of people trying to keep idiot #1 and idiot #2 the fuck out of their synagogue, while a third moron is goading them on with his ridiculous macho posturing. There's some other stuff with Fred Durst apparently striking up a conversation, and a guy getting pulled inside, neither of which i quite understand, nor presume to opine on because they confuse me (maybe someone ho can decipher the accent can illustrate for me?) And hten two tippy chicks apologize, becuase oh yeah that's helpful thanks.

Are the people outside victims? maybe of poor social decisions and a lack of quality upbringing. But in this particular situation? No, nor have I asserted they were. That's entirely your assertion, geek, 'cause you're its only source.

Was it being "largely driven by a mouthy jew"? no, it's largely driven by two assholes attacking the door. Furry hoody Guy has decided to show off how macho he is by catcalling and threatening them. Which is, as i note above, the ort of action of someone who wants another idiot to rush over and start throwing punches. Afain, this is wholly from your imagination, rather than anything I have said.

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Thanks, Bibi. Helen Borg Mar 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2015 #2
Because people see no difference. Helen Borg Mar 2015 #4
I would be surprised... LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #8
Excellent question. I doubt you'll get an answer. n/t nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #25
+1 mwrguy Mar 2015 #3
How convenient to blame Jews for anti-Semitism. n/t Unvanguard Mar 2015 #6
oh its real convenient e-cigdub Mar 2015 #10
...^ that x100 - unbelievable 840high Mar 2015 #17
You mean the way ann--- Mar 2015 #56
This has NOTHING to do with Israel. Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #58
despite your illogic, it does have to do with attacking Jews wordpix Mar 2015 #59
Really? You think the *only* reason anyone would ever attack Jews is because of Israel? harrose Mar 2015 #62
What other reason ann--- Mar 2015 #88
Your anti-semitisim is showing and it's not pretty. Quackers Mar 2015 #97
Anti-Semitism did not suddenly spring into existence in 1948. n/t Unvanguard Mar 2015 #64
But, it was only in Germany ann--- Mar 2015 #89
Are you even being remotely serious?! Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #91
Thank heaven, someone who knows history. Last year in reading a book on Nazi Germany there was appalachiablue Mar 2015 #95
I hope you are joking MrBig Mar 2015 #92
I suggest you look into what anti-Semitism is and how long it has been around.... Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #68
Wait, whut? Codeine Mar 2015 #73
WTF? melman Mar 2015 #77
do learn a smidgeon of history, my friend. cali Mar 2015 #80
Who is "they"? What does that have to do with an attack on a synagogue? Unvanguard Mar 2015 #63
What the fuck? ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #94
This sort of thing was going on long before Bibi. LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #7
Yes it was, and it wasn't just in Europe either. It has happened in the US also still_one Mar 2015 #76
Bibi had nothing to do with this. 840high Mar 2015 #16
yeah, because those fuckers are just heartbroken over Palestinians and care about deal with IRan JI7 Mar 2015 #18
These thugs are bigots because they are bigots, not because of what happens geek tragedy Mar 2015 #23
But, why do you think ann--- Mar 2015 #90
How about millennia of lies distortion and propaganda against the Jewish people? ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #93
disturbing response. cali Mar 2015 #79
Judging from the video... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author android fan Mar 2015 #9
Jury results Trillo Mar 2015 #11
Weird Scootaloo Mar 2015 #13
You didn't go too far. 840high Mar 2015 #19
sounds like a stalker to me Skittles Mar 2015 #75
it appears to me that quite a bit happened before the video started Mosby Mar 2015 #12
Yeah, it's clearly not a thorough documentation or anything Scootaloo Mar 2015 #14
Well, you were completely wrong about this, it was a bunch of thugs invading geek tragedy Mar 2015 #28
Some folks are keen on minimizing anti-semitic violence whenever possible oberliner Mar 2015 #31
I didn't blame any victims, geek Scootaloo Mar 2015 #32
That is false equivalence, blaming the VICTIM for defending his own synagogue against violent geek tragedy Mar 2015 #34
The false equivalence is yours, geek Scootaloo Mar 2015 #37
You gave most (4/6) of the invaders a complete free pass, and you purposefully ignored the invasion geek tragedy Mar 2015 #39
You're missing something... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #43
Except you still clung to the false narrative. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #46
I stated what the video depicts. Scootaloo Mar 2015 #48
asdf geek tragedy Mar 2015 #50
One thing before bed... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #52
cheers, thank you, and and good night nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #53
Of more accurately, how you interpreted what the video depicts. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #54
that's a really bizarre take on it. You have Jews cornered inside their own synagogue geek tragedy Mar 2015 #27
I don't recall saying "both sides are guilty" Scootaloo Mar 2015 #29
While completely ignorning the context that the Jews were cornered inside a room inside their geek tragedy Mar 2015 #30
He wasn't defending shit, he wanted to whip his dick around and didn't care who got hurt for his ego Scootaloo Mar 2015 #33
Once again, you give the invaders a complete pass for their act of provocation and geek tragedy Mar 2015 #35
And once again, your imagination is taking over your mouth Scootaloo Mar 2015 #38
"a confrontation between three knucklehead Chavs," geek tragedy Mar 2015 #40
From the video, it does indeed look like a personal issue between those three Scootaloo Mar 2015 #45
"the dude's posturing, insults, catcalls, and threats drove the conflict. " geek tragedy Mar 2015 #47
Okay, so now your position is that he WAS being helpful? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #49
Why are you assuming this guy ran into the synagogue from outside? geek tragedy Mar 2015 #51
The fact is, if one is opposed to crimes motivated by bias against religion, one opposes all such Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #41
Absolutely agree Scootaloo Mar 2015 #44
Cocnur laserhaas Mar 2015 #61
you sound like you are blaming strawberries Mar 2015 #67
I was wrong. See Post 52 Scootaloo Mar 2015 #71
my apologize strawberries Mar 2015 #72
So Completely Disturbing colsohlibgal Mar 2015 #15
"group of intoxicated men, believed to have come from a nearby party" NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #20
Signs of more to come? Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #21
I hope not sakabatou Mar 2015 #22
London's Jews 'fear racial attacks' Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #24
BBC News: Six arrested after Stamford Hill synagogue attack PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #26
the drunk children of the damned Sunlei Mar 2015 #36
Jews and Muslims in Europe are political allies in the struggle against racism and bigotry. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #42
that would be nice. It's largely a false narrative, however. cali Mar 2015 #81
That is definitely not true oberliner Mar 2015 #84
Nuttyahoo's lies ann--- Mar 2015 #55
Once again, this has NOTHING to do with Israel nor Netanyahu. Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #57
I'm so glad the actions of some Jews make you apparently indifferent to attacks on any Jews anywhere Unvanguard Mar 2015 #65
Making excuses for the perpetrators MrBig Mar 2015 #66
Apparently not the only one who thinks this way. Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #69
So what do you ann--- Mar 2015 #83
Simple - Hatred of Jews MrBig Mar 2015 #85
But, what, in particular ann--- Mar 2015 #86
They were drunk...in vino veritas Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #87
Oh please stop going on about Israel. This has fuck-all to do with that. Codeine Mar 2015 #74
Since when has London been in Israel? LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #78
wow. you really have a hard time grasping the most basic shit or cali Mar 2015 #82
Can I suggest changing the Title word "attackers" to "Attack" - so it will fit Twitter? laserhaas Mar 2015 #60
must be a European thing quadrature Mar 2015 #70
And the human race supposedly is evolving. Really. WestSeattle2 Mar 2015 #96
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