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In reply to the discussion: Anti-Semitic attackers yelling 'we will kill you' storm synagogue in London [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)43. You're missing something...
Oh, here it is!
Judging from the video...
Also this exchange:
it appears to me that quite a bit happened before the video started
Both windows of the shul doors are already broken at the beginning of the video. In the beginning of the video someone throws a chair through the open door. Where did the chair come from? Probably from inside the shul, so it's likely that the shul was attacked and invaded, and then the perps were repelled back outside, that's when the video starts.
Both windows of the shul doors are already broken at the beginning of the video. In the beginning of the video someone throws a chair through the open door. Where did the chair come from? Probably from inside the shul, so it's likely that the shul was attacked and invaded, and then the perps were repelled back outside, that's when the video starts.
Yeah, it's clearly not a thorough documentation or anything
Going on the dialogue and shown actions though, it definitely looks like it's a personal thing between Furry Hoodie guy and the two outside It looks like the sort of thing you'd find on World Star.
Going on the dialogue and shown actions though, it definitely looks like it's a personal thing between Furry Hoodie guy and the two outside It looks like the sort of thing you'd find on World Star.
I can go by what I see. and what I see resembles any number of testosterone fights I saw in high school. Is that the whole situation? of course not. This is something i agree with Mosby on. I try to not agree with Mosby about anything, it seems unhealthy. But yes, there's absolutely more that the video does not show.
Now, to your post...
You blamed the Jew in the hoodie for "clearly trying to provoke and prolong the situation" and "goading the people outside."
Well, that's exactly what he's doing. I've been that guy. He's doing what you do, when you want someone to charge over and try to beat your ass, because you think you can beat theirs.
Maybe you're not familiar with the world of brawling. And kudos to you for that, I don't recommend gaining familiarity.
Again, this is defensible only if you deliberately choose to pretend that there had been no invasion.
It's because they're being attacked that I criticism him, because what he's doing is trying to keep the attack going so he can "prove" what a little badass he is. Of course the blame lies with the assholes outside, I'm simply noting that yelling at them to keep attacking is going to encourage them to, you know, keep attacking. Without Mouthy Mario motherfucker, maybe they'd keep it up anyway. Maybe they'd wander off in their drunken stupor. I don't know. I do know he's not helping the situation and is contributing to the other people's risk.
No mention of their violent invasion of the synagogue. In your version of events, the mouthy Jew in the synagogue picked a fight with these guys and 'provoked' and "goaded" them into a violent reaction.
Where did I say he picked the fight? I didn't, nor did I imply it. I said he's trying to prolong the fight, because, well, he is.
And there it is--only three guilty parties! Even though a party of SIX people violently invaded the synagogue. But in your view, most of the invaders were blameless, and indeed just innocent victims trying to smooth over a dispute you viewed as being largely driven by a mouthy Jew.
I'm afraid that must be your view, geek, 'cause it's not mine.
In my view is a video where two assholes are attacking the door of a synagogue, while a handfull of other mooks mill around outside mostly being useless but occasionally making gestures of holding those idiots back. Inside are a bunch of people trying to keep idiot #1 and idiot #2 the fuck out of their synagogue, while a third moron is goading them on with his ridiculous macho posturing. There's some other stuff with Fred Durst apparently striking up a conversation, and a guy getting pulled inside, neither of which i quite understand, nor presume to opine on because they confuse me (maybe someone ho can decipher the accent can illustrate for me?) And hten two tippy chicks apologize, becuase oh yeah that's helpful thanks.
Are the people outside victims? maybe of poor social decisions and a lack of quality upbringing. But in this particular situation? No, nor have I asserted they were. That's entirely your assertion, geek, 'cause you're its only source.
Was it being "largely driven by a mouthy jew"? no, it's largely driven by two assholes attacking the door. Furry hoody Guy has decided to show off how macho he is by catcalling and threatening them. Which is, as i note above, the ort of action of someone who wants another idiot to rush over and start throwing punches. Afain, this is wholly from your imagination, rather than anything I have said.
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Anti-Semitic attackers yelling 'we will kill you' storm synagogue in London [View all]
Mosby
Mar 2015
OP
Really? You think the *only* reason anyone would ever attack Jews is because of Israel?
harrose
Mar 2015
#62
Thank heaven, someone who knows history. Last year in reading a book on Nazi Germany there was
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#95
I suggest you look into what anti-Semitism is and how long it has been around....
Behind the Aegis
Mar 2015
#68
Yes it was, and it wasn't just in Europe either. It has happened in the US also
still_one
Mar 2015
#76
yeah, because those fuckers are just heartbroken over Palestinians and care about deal with IRan
JI7
Mar 2015
#18
These thugs are bigots because they are bigots, not because of what happens
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#23
How about millennia of lies distortion and propaganda against the Jewish people?
ismnotwasm
Mar 2015
#93
Well, you were completely wrong about this, it was a bunch of thugs invading
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#28
That is false equivalence, blaming the VICTIM for defending his own synagogue against violent
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#34
You gave most (4/6) of the invaders a complete free pass, and you purposefully ignored the invasion
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#39
that's a really bizarre take on it. You have Jews cornered inside their own synagogue
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#27
While completely ignorning the context that the Jews were cornered inside a room inside their
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#30
He wasn't defending shit, he wanted to whip his dick around and didn't care who got hurt for his ego
Scootaloo
Mar 2015
#33
Once again, you give the invaders a complete pass for their act of provocation and
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#35
From the video, it does indeed look like a personal issue between those three
Scootaloo
Mar 2015
#45
"the dude's posturing, insults, catcalls, and threats drove the conflict. "
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#47
The fact is, if one is opposed to crimes motivated by bias against religion, one opposes all such
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#41
Jews and Muslims in Europe are political allies in the struggle against racism and bigotry.
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#42
I'm so glad the actions of some Jews make you apparently indifferent to attacks on any Jews anywhere
Unvanguard
Mar 2015
#65
Can I suggest changing the Title word "attackers" to "Attack" - so it will fit Twitter?
laserhaas
Mar 2015
#60