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In reply to the discussion: Saudi Officials Linked to Jihadist Group in WikiLeaks Cables [View all]JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Not many are fully aware & understand foreign politics & history -- particularly in how it relates to Saudi Arabia. You also taught me some new information which I appreciate since I dedicate time to research & understand these matters. I hope to continue seeing you around as they aren't many. HBO VICE 3 weeks in a row nailed it as far as things I'm aware but many don't mention but especially the media.
If there is one consistency I have found, particularly in the heavy oil producing place is what do they do with the oil? If a nation nationalizes oil production instantly they're an enemy like Iran, Iraq (bad guy but Saddam nationalizing oil in the 70's is why they sanctioned & wanted him either replaced or gone -- Exxon Mobile has an oil contract in the Super Giant oil fields down South and have oil contracts in the Kurdistan region of Iraq now), Libya, Venezuela, Syria (Assad actually qualifies when usually they're far better candidates for regime change based on human rights reasons they claim as why US must get involved -- but are friends can be as bad as they want to be, apparently). You get the drift.
One thing I notice when the US & NATO are involved must be economic reasons like in Afghanistan which the US had a strong interest in in the 80's and a return in 2001 or so and based on Wikileaks they said there were 2 things a priority. One is not to allow Russian involvement under any circumstances and keep Jordan's assistance a secret. Jordan is another Saudi-coalition ally, they were the Saud Dynasty's friends in the beginning of the end of the Ottoman Empire. Though I'm not sure what their resources are big on except for notable mineral deposits & heroin -- which I don't put past the corporate interests that direct foreign policy to want to have a slice of that based on the enormous profits that a venture capitalist wouldn't pass up -- especially those only concerned about profit (there is huge labor exploitation in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, any place that is our friends in Southwest Asia in Iraq all I know for sure the department of defense uses Saudi or Kuwaiti imported labor -- same labor pipeline Qatar builds their economy off their backs)
Also believe US may be interested in an oil pipeline from Iran to India though don't know much on anything like that. A lot of the war stuff is a smokescreen when economics is a major part of the US decides to do or not do.
On edit -- Saudi Arabia flooding the market with oil and US (though when it comes to Iran the US doesn't need to ask them) encouraging them to keep the prices low as it cripples oil-dependent nations with sanctions & the nuke thing is because 80% of their energy is provided with renewable resources as a way to combat the sanctions. I can't think of any independent nation that has been beat up on by the US more than Iran when they have a middle class, 70% own their own home, have labor rights, health care, etc. Saudi Arabia has none of that basically, especially no labor rights, though they are regressive in other ways (typical of post-colonization) and if they're an enemy -- the US has been giving them every reason to think of US as an enemy.,