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Desert Dog

(74 posts)
32. Part of the Plan
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 01:16 PM
Oct 2021

Mansion wants the Democrats to use the reconciliation up to solve the "crisis". Two birds - One stone for him. How about getting McConnell to STOP blocking it? Mansion is posturing like there is some negotiation for this. The GQP isn't asking for anything. They are just being petulant children and he is giving them cover.

The coal turd and his corporate senator with the curtsy are the worst freak'n negotiators on the planet! Why don't they just SHUT UP. Schumer cant even bluff this - if they keep running their mouths and doing op-eds.

I think both bills are effectively dead. After the economy takes a crap because of their malfeasance, Democrats should build one infrastructure bill with some perks and wrap it into the reconciliation bill. If the parliamentarian chokes on it, fire the person and move on. We need to start posturing on this immediately. Make the GOP and corporate Democrats go on record and VOTE against it. You can see GQP gearing up to run on "tax and spend" Democrats again.. Wrap this obstruction around their damn necks. Trillions in tax cuts for the rich, but NOTHING for the middle class.

If Mansion and Cinema only care about their infrastructure bill, then we need to kill it. Take it off the table. The long post by Senator F-Off was a tell. She was trying to get her way around the reconciliation bill, failed and threw a tantrum. She was going to have a celebratory rally with her corporate masters at the posh AZ resort and Joe/Progressives dashed her plans. She dreams of being this great bipartisan negotiator and she could not even persuade her own party. Did she even try? Seems like she just blew them off. KS is demented and i now fear she will never agree to anything. It is just a matter of time before her team starts floating leaks regarding her defection to the GOP. If Breyer gave more consideration to the country vs. his last chance grab at relevance, he would retire and we would get a sane justice in place asap. With Dem sh1t show in Senate and Cinema melt down, it would probably be easier to run away from "Dems control everything" fantasy. Cinema flakeing off to GQP could make the Senate apathy much clearer to the electorate. Would it help in individual races? Probably not, but it could help with national mood and turn out.

Cool SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #2
I like that idea jimfields33 Oct 2021 #6
He can't pandr32 Oct 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #5
Sure seems like it. padah513 Oct 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #11
Publicly direct your verbiage to your pal, Mitch. blm Oct 2021 #4
If you see him crossing the street... BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #13
I'm not sure that he can (negotiate that is) FBaggins Oct 2021 #9
Manchin should be reminded that he won't have any power at all if Democrats are in the minority. Walleye Oct 2021 #10
I doubt he cares. He isn't up for reelection until 2024, and I doubt he will run again. Lonestarblue Oct 2021 #25
Can't blame you, I feel the same way. Walleye Oct 2021 #34
Yes. It seems those two always object to any moves their party... brush Oct 2021 #37
He'll be 77 years old in 2024 inwiththenew Oct 2021 #39
Just 'progressives' hopes?? Budi Oct 2021 #12
Yes, the media is also being terrible about this story LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #20
Messaging directed via Zuckerburg's algorithums . Budi Oct 2021 #23
Hey Joe M. Just stfu. We know you are going to block things no matter what happens k CentralMass Oct 2021 #14
Keep the senate in session Miguelito Loveless Oct 2021 #15
K & R Budi Oct 2021 #17
Sen. Schumer vs. Sen. McConnell negotiations. Mr. Evil Oct 2021 #16
Me too. It also buries anything good being accomplished from the News. Budi Oct 2021 #18
this is so fucking ridiculous LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #19
2024 campaign ads are being written by the Corporate Media Budi Oct 2021 #27
Joe Manchin Just Does Not Get It. McConnell does not want to work with Democratic Party. UCmeNdc Oct 2021 #21
You would think that Manchin thinks he is utterly powerless to get the debt ceiling raised. femmedem Oct 2021 #22
#$*&(@!)( Joe Manchin...and that other @#!%$*() Kyrsten Sinema turbinetree Oct 2021 #24
With friends like Manchin... kysrsoze Oct 2021 #26
Negotiate? Must be code for give in, which exactly what Manchin expects. Raven123 Oct 2021 #28
Wait until Traildogbob Oct 2021 #29
I'm pretty discouraged today Taraman Oct 2021 #30
This will all be remembered when we don't need him. pwb Oct 2021 #31
Yup, vote like you mean it. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #46
Part of the Plan Desert Dog Oct 2021 #32
Pass the smaller bill - primary Sinema - pass the larger bill Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #47
Manchin is not that naive dlk Oct 2021 #33
_ LudwigPastorius Oct 2021 #35
I am so sick of him and Sinema. As far as I'm concerned, there should be a vote and if these in2herbs Oct 2021 #36
Anyone want to guess how much McConnell will respond to Manchin's imploring? Bayard Oct 2021 #38
Mitch just folded True Blue American Oct 2021 #40
No he didn't FBaggins Oct 2021 #42
I've already been blocked once for saying what I thought about Manchin, and found guilty by Martin68 Oct 2021 #41
Yeah, might want to tweak that rule a bit Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #45
A lot of senators oppose changing the filibuster rule.. speaktruthtopower Oct 2021 #43
Send Manchin a message - I did Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #44
The media should stop calling him a "moderate". zanana1 Oct 2021 #48
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