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demmiblue

(36,806 posts)
Mon May 2, 2022, 08:51 PM May 2022

Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows [View all]

Source: Politico

"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.

The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.

The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision - Planned Parenthood v. Casey - that largely maintained the right. "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start," Alito writes.

"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," he writes in the document, labeled as the "Opinion of the Court." "It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people's elected representatives."

Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court's holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473







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Not surprised and if the midterms weren't already critical nini May 2022 #1
Was this leaked in time to affect the Mid-Term Primaries, which have started in most states? TheBlackAdder May 2022 #228
Well, Crap! Deep State Witch May 2022 #2
'an initial draft majority opinion,' elleng May 2022 #3
It's possible the leak was intentional tishaLA May 2022 #6
I would be surprised if that were true. Raven123 May 2022 #15
I would, too tishaLA May 2022 #20
Yes, likely strategical, imo, elleng May 2022 #22
And not to test the waters for Democratic voters LiberalLovinLug May 2022 #102
The GOP is playing the Long Game, setting up their Dominos and letting them slowly fall. TheBlackAdder May 2022 #230
WE MUST TAKE TO THE STREETS TONIGHT!! OrlandoDem2 May 2022 #36
Read the draft first, and fine-tune approach. elleng May 2022 #40
This doesn't necessarily mean there are five votes to overturn onenote May 2022 #125
NPR's SC expert, Nina Totenberg, wnylib May 2022 #155
Be ready for war. The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #132
actually, they do have government sponsored security if they want it. onenote May 2022 #159
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #163
So just what are you suggesting? oldsoftie May 2022 #223
Murder. I guess that's one way to pack the court. N/T Jedi Guy May 2022 #239
O.M.G.!!! riversedge May 2022 #4
Medieval Times peppertree May 2022 #5
Big Government at its worst... Mike Nelson May 2022 #7
Or not having one. 🤬 ShazzieB May 2022 #63
This now means any Supreme Court decision ever made in the past can be reversed nattyice May 2022 #8
YEP Rebl2 May 2022 #13
That's always been true, and it's happened many times. Ocelot II May 2022 #24
Usually zipplewrath May 2022 #131
Lawrence v. Texas onenote May 2022 #176
This is the new 'Dred Scot' DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #134
including this one. Qutzupalotl May 2022 #43
That has always been true. wnylib May 2022 #107
This now means any Supreme Court decision in the immediate future DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #144
And what are Dems doing about it? hamsterjill May 2022 #9
What can Dems do about it, and why do you think they don't care? Ocelot II May 2022 #29
Dems should have been moving on this long ago. hamsterjill May 2022 #64
Hillary warned us in 2016 that Roe vs Wade was on the chopping block. sheshe2 May 2022 #110
Absolutely. hamsterjill May 2022 #114
So effin' true I knew we'd be going down a dangerous road electric_blue68 May 2022 #143
I didn't ignore Hillary, and I turned out and voted for her.. DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #149
Agree with your whole comment. Karma13612 May 2022 #168
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #170
It is horrific, hedious, and infuriating... I'm 69 I fear for my "fellow" younger, and lower... electric_blue68 May 2022 #177
yes, the dominoes Karma13612 May 2022 #185
I did see a lot of men at NYC's Women's Marches. Also thinking of LGBTQI people, contraception, etc electric_blue68 May 2022 #188
I am hoping that Big Pharma would finally Karma13612 May 2022 #191
Thank you, DemocraticPatriot. sheshe2 May 2022 #171
I have been a loyal party man, since my youth... DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #175
It is not about you. sheshe2 May 2022 #181
I am not angry, just saying. DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #187
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 2022 #253
I blame folks with big megaphones who told followers that the Supreme Court didn't matter lapucelle May 2022 #222
Wonder what she has to say now... sheshe2 May 2022 #256
I agree totally. DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #173
Thank you. hamsterjill May 2022 #194
There will be fights and protests but the real answer is to GOTV and pick up seats LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #216
I'm blaming Dem voters for not turning out EVERY election nini May 2022 #30
That's a big part of it. hamsterjill May 2022 #67
Maybe with the GQP Supreme Court's pending decision hitting them right between the legs, DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #166
In my 50 yrs of voting I've missed a few local primaries, and ? 1 or 2 local elections. Never... electric_blue68 May 2022 #174
It's breaking news. Lots of folks care. Joinfortmill May 2022 #44
Then let's get something done. hamsterjill May 2022 #69
A constitutional amendment. NYC Liberal May 2022 #90
The only way is Article V The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #137
Please expand upon article V.... DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #152
About what? The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #220
The news only just now broke! ShazzieB May 2022 #61
But this has been coming for a long time! hamsterjill May 2022 #71
Partly, we don't get out and vote especially during the midterms. sheshe2 May 2022 #123
let's not forget Covid has sapped a lot of people's energies! electric_blue68 May 2022 #148
We tried.. DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #156
Perhaps the Nina Turners, David Sirotas, and Brianna Joy Grays should of thought about the JohnSJ May 2022 #62
You are exactly right. hamsterjill May 2022 #75
All the people, on this board and elsewhere mcar May 2022 #79
I remember that. "The Supreme Court didn't matter" refrain, along with "tired of voting for JohnSJ May 2022 #86
Jesus, let that shit go already. n/t intheflow May 2022 #232
Ya don't like, be my guest, put me on ignore JohnSJ May 2022 #233
that's the problem llashram May 2022 #248
This broke a few minutes ago mcar May 2022 #74
It's been coming to this for years. hamsterjill May 2022 #77
Hmm, maybe all those "Dems" who voted for Jill Stein in 2016 mcar May 2022 #81
Yes they should have. hamsterjill May 2022 #83
The only hope we have is to get off our high-horses and vote for every Dem we can. herding cats May 2022 #98
I understand. hamsterjill May 2022 #109
NY Dems saw it coming. We have a law wnylib May 2022 #136
New Yorkers have always been smart! hamsterjill May 2022 #139
Actually, so do I. NY has its share wnylib May 2022 #153
Nope, NY Karma13612 May 2022 #172
But we have had Republican governors and wnylib May 2022 #180
NYC mayors do seem Karma13612 May 2022 #189
Under rare occasions, I believe electric_blue68 May 2022 #190
Since 1900, 10 Republican governors. wnylib May 2022 #195
Rare-ish. And Mayor Lindsey was a Liberal Republican... electric_blue68 May 2022 #197
We'll be there! (NYC'r 👍 ) (rural NYS is *beautiful* 💖 ) electric_blue68 May 2022 #182
I listened to the oral arguments, and it was clear that Roe was dead LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #215
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem May 2022 #205
Welll, what are we going to do? (Droopy Dog voice) Oneironaut May 2022 #135
I know you're right. hamsterjill May 2022 #141
Post removed Post removed May 2022 #178
The fight was six years ago. We begged people to see it, but they accused us of fear mongering. LongtimeAZDem May 2022 #206
What do you want Dems to do about it ??? DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #142
I want to see fire and brimstone! hamsterjill May 2022 #154
What I want would get me a hide.... DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #157
I understand completely. hamsterjill May 2022 #167
Control of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 as well as the fate of Roe v. Wade and VRA LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #214
Aggressive move during an election year IronLionZion May 2022 #10
It's going to turn out Dems big time. Joinfortmill May 2022 #48
I hope so. hamsterjill May 2022 #80
I hope we have a blue wave IronLionZion May 2022 #145
But as long as inflation continues, SouthBayDem May 2022 #257
We see The Handmaid's Tale as a sci-fi/horror story. Grokenstein May 2022 #11
Yeah, scary shit. Joinfortmill May 2022 #50
Control of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 as well as the fate of Roe v. Wade and VRA LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #12
Don't forget SUSAN COLLINS. vanlassie May 2022 #25
IT IS SUSAN EFFING COLLINS!! OrlandoDem2 May 2022 #39
SUSAN EFFING COLLINS. vanlassie May 2022 #54
Collins will be shocked, just shocked Kavanaugh is at the forefront of the crusade to gut Roe. LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #217
Who are both women. Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem May 2022 #198
And yet they close their eyes to what was intended by "well regulated militia" groundloop May 2022 #14
Fear not. This ruling means that the militia requirement can be reinterpreted nattyice May 2022 #38
This may turn the country Blue. pwb May 2022 #16
Yup. Joinfortmill May 2022 #53
This totally changes the chemistry of the mid-terms. Big Blue Marble May 2022 #106
Women who disobey and have sex without permission will have to risk death to have an abortion. Eliot Rosewater May 2022 #17
Yes, if they can't get to a blue state. ShazzieB May 2022 #82
My thought also, but sadly that will be prohibitively expensive for many. groundloop May 2022 #112
Maybe this time more women and men will contribute to some kind of traveling, lodging etc funds... electric_blue68 May 2022 #199
Unless the Repubs take back the house, senate and presidency. spudspud May 2022 #121
If this story is true, Roberts needs to find out how it happened. Raven123 May 2022 #18
I'd guess a clerk for one of the justices leaked it. n/t PoliticAverse May 2022 #93
this is what happens when the Supreme Court gets politicized with hard right conservative. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #19
We all knew it was going to happen, doesn't make the shock of it any less though. Bev54 May 2022 #26
Amen. Boy, am I pissed. Joinfortmill May 2022 #57
It's unheard-of for draft opinions to leak. I wonder who leaked this one, and why? Ocelot II May 2022 #21
There will surely be an exhaustive investigation inside the Court. TomSlick May 2022 #28
This is how you protect sources. Document's metadata provides no solid hints as to its provenance. mahatmakanejeeves May 2022 #226
Oh yeah.. LeftInTX May 2022 #249
My bet is that it was the conservative justices themselves (or their staff) who leaked it . . . markpkessinger May 2022 #162
They'll be going after marriage equality next tishaLA May 2022 #23
My bet is that contraception is next. TomSlick May 2022 #70
Not necessarily jmowreader May 2022 #129
Abington, Weisman and Engel are certainly on the shopping list. TomSlick May 2022 #130
Oh you can bet on that! hamsterjill May 2022 #85
You can read the 98-page pdf at: dalton99a May 2022 #27
every woman should start a general strike across the country moonshinegnomie May 2022 #31
We should. Joinfortmill May 2022 #58
Pink flu. wnylib May 2022 #151
Neal Katyal: demmiblue May 2022 #32
That was my first thought - How the bloody hell did this leak? Ocelot II May 2022 #42
Some in this thread are suggesting it may have been delberate. ShazzieB May 2022 #87
It had to have been intentional, considering how tightly the court controls information Ocelot II May 2022 #92
Bwah! Sorry, I had to laugh. "Oh. Lookie here?! What's this?" Def Pentagon Papers level! electric_blue68 May 2022 #158
I'd guess a clerk for one of the justices leaked it. It's possible one of the pro-choice PoliticAverse May 2022 #94
Might have been a liberal clerk giving us a heads up. wnylib May 2022 #164
Margaret Atwood author The Handmaids Tale on with Ali Velshi this past Sunday. scarletlib May 2022 #33
also during the military draft a man was only owned for a few years DBoon May 2022 #128
Agreed scarletlib May 2022 #229
looks like a constitutional amendment is needed vlyons May 2022 #34
Reactionary morons bucolic_frolic May 2022 #35
hey susan sarandon DonCoquixote May 2022 #37
Move on! EOM tiredtoo May 2022 #46
you got that right Piasladic May 2022 #47
Susan who?? DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #161
+1 oasis May 2022 #193
Sarandon didn't smear Clinton by herself; she had lots of help, even around here. LongtimeAZDem May 2022 #200
+1 betsuni May 2022 #225
Having difficulty believing this tiredtoo May 2022 #41
By promising that contraception and wnylib May 2022 #169
Women of the United States of America, republicans wrested from your hands the fate of your lives. dsharp88 May 2022 #45
Rule of the minority over the majority ..... Alito, Roberts, Kavanaugh, Gorsch,and Coney Island .. Botany May 2022 #49
Hey Nina Turner, David Sirota, Briahna and Joy Gray. Aren't you proud that you not only refused to JohnSJ May 2022 #52
throw in ted rall, jill stein DonCoquixote May 2022 #56
Yup, and that is what a lot of the folks that listened to them did, voted for Jill Stein JohnSJ May 2022 #68
The ones who voted for this can go to hell. greatauntoftriplets May 2022 #55
Loud and clear madamesilverspurs May 2022 #59
Loud and clear StarryNite May 2022 #210
This impacts 51% females of the USA, ruled by a majority male SCOTUS. ancianita May 2022 #60
T H I S electric_blue68 May 2022 #165
I pray that heart attacks occur. LiberalFighter May 2022 #65
I find myself thinking thoughts like that... dixiechiken1 May 2022 #115
Has a SCOTUS opinion ever leaked before? mcar May 2022 #66
I am not aware of any such occurrences in the past. Ocelot II May 2022 #89
Thanks for your perspective mcar May 2022 #91
Yes, during Nixon's administration. n/t PoliticAverse May 2022 #96
Thanks mcar May 2022 #99
The Supreme Court is probably the least leaking part of the federal government by far. n/t PoliticAverse May 2022 #100
The Pentagon Papers were leaked, but not from the Supreme Court. Ocelot II May 2022 #138
See... PoliticAverse May 2022 #207
No *draft opinion* has ever been leaked. Ocelot II May 2022 #238
Ginni Thomas, are you leaking this? milestogo May 2022 #72
"Hillary's too much of a corporate democrat!" hatrack May 2022 #73
"SCOTUS isn't important" mcar May 2022 #84
"It's established law. They'll never overturn it!" herding cats May 2022 #103
Right there with you, herding cats mcar May 2022 #105
It's sad, but most remember that false narrative JohnSJ May 2022 #88
Maybe its time to expand the courts...... turbinetree May 2022 #76
+1. Killing Roe is only the beginning dalton99a May 2022 #78
If people don't fully understand what this means, then maybe someone should explain to them that turbinetree May 2022 #243
where do we get the votes to do that? onenote May 2022 #127
WE have to get people in both the house and senate it can be done..... turbinetree May 2022 #241
This should be the kiss of death for the repukes Cozmo May 2022 #95
There will be blowback, for sure. Ocelot II May 2022 #97
It hopefully will Rebl2 May 2022 #118
Women can be stripped of this most personal fundamental right. But freedumb. JudyM May 2022 #101
Well, I hope that women enjoyed their brief taste of personhood because those days are over Orrex May 2022 #108
I will ALWAYS be a person, wnylib May 2022 #179
You are, of course, correct, and please don't ever fucking change. Orrex May 2022 #192
At 72, I am too effin old to change. wnylib May 2022 #202
So, abortion isn't mentioned in the Constitution ..... rickford66 May 2022 #111
Fuck you Jill Stein and protest voters. Fuck you Alpeduez21 May 2022 #113
I am even more disgusted with James Comey. StevieM May 2022 #201
K&R for exposure uppityperson May 2022 #116
The Roberts Court BlueIdaho May 2022 #117
I thought that Politico is full of BS? JoeOtterbein May 2022 #119
I don't know but with the make up of this court. rockfordfile May 2022 #124
It can be, but isn't always. Ocelot II May 2022 #140
"Full of BS" in so many words... JoeOtterbein May 2022 #147
This came from the NY Times. qwlauren35 May 2022 #150
NPR is also reporting it, as is the BBC. wnylib May 2022 #183
F@ck all you Senate Republicans who enabled this! OneCrazyDiamond May 2022 #120
Vote out republicans. rockfordfile May 2022 #122
Judicial activism only applies to decisions that expands rights. no_hypocrisy May 2022 #126
Post removed Post removed May 2022 #133
Hearing some people are taking to the streets! electric_blue68 May 2022 #146
H O W L !!!!!!!! electric_blue68 May 2022 #160
What fresh fucking hell is this???? Blue Owl May 2022 #184
A look into Alito's fucked up mind! LeftInTX May 2022 #203
So when is the decision coming? Polybius May 2022 #186
Susan Collins??? Curious what you think now rpannier May 2022 #196
She is clutching her pearls and furrowing her brow Novara May 2022 #242
I believe it was purposely leaked by someone. Kablooie May 2022 #204
Well if you want to influence an opinion, you need to do it before it is finalized. n/t PoliticAverse May 2022 #208
So women's bodies have less automony than a corpse eh? LittleGirl May 2022 #209
This was done to take public's eye off the fact that our country was almost overthrown on Jan 6. C Moon May 2022 #211
That entered my mind too...a distraction StarryNite May 2022 #212
There's something bigger than anything since 1860 going here, and they need to bury it. C Moon May 2022 #213
The target has always been the right to privacy LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #218
+1. Killing Roe is only the beginning dalton99a May 2022 #246
WHAT?? YoshidaYui May 2022 #219
I had heard this and saw the OP before going offline last night BumRushDaShow May 2022 #221
"must be" - not 'We overrule it' bucolic_frolic May 2022 #224
I have just 2 thoughts on this issue: Vinca May 2022 #227
An Idea McKim May 2022 #231
I think the most interesting aspect to this is why was it leaked? SKKY May 2022 #234
Take it to the streets. Take it within government buildings. Paladin May 2022 #235
Big, big flaw in that! The 'issue of abortion' should be returned to sinkingfeeling May 2022 #236
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling May 2022 #237
Only step one, contraceptive rights are next. Jon King May 2022 #240
Well duh. They said "and Casey" Novara May 2022 #244
IF this initial opinion llashram May 2022 #245
Jeez, What's next? Recriminalize Gay Sex and Marriage ??? BlueWavePsych May 2022 #247
Well, we knew they'd pull this if they got the chance. malthaussen May 2022 #250
Shhhhhh. Don't let them hear this. They'll do it. Novara May 2022 #252
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 2022 #251
We are GOING the WRONG DIRECTION! n/t TeamProg May 2022 #254
Alito wants to bring back sodomy laws too! LeftInTX May 2022 #255
Aito Is A Little Fast And Loose With The Truth DallasNE May 2022 #258
... ck4829 May 2022 #259
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