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In reply to the discussion: Japan OKs plan to release Fukushima nuclear plant wastewater [View all]NNadir
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Perhaps the dumb shit who wrote this precious bit of stupidity isn't aware that the ocean contains over 500 billion curies of potassium 40, and has generally contained more than that for the 4 billion years oceans have existed.
If you would like to produce a credible scientific paper from a reputable journal showing that in the 11 years since Fukushima that as many people as will die in the next hour from air pollution, have died from radiation releases at Fukushima you are invited to do so.
There are many thousands of papers on the subject of radiation releases at Fukushima and their health effects.
Here's one: Michael R Reich, Aya Goto, Towards long-term responses in Fukushima, The Lancet, Volume 386, Issue 9992, 2015, Pages 498-500,
Putting Hiroshima and Nagasaki side by side with Fukushima, as done in this issue of The Lancet, seems inappropriate in major respects. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were intentional governmental acts of war, whereas Fukushima was accidental and negligent industrial behaviour in time of peace. They share exposure to radiationbut at vastly different levels and in different forms.2 In Fukushima, no one has died from radiation exposure, and the UN Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation report3 in 2013 stated that substantial changes in future cancer statistics attributed to radiation exposure are not expected to be observed, although the committee also noted a theoretical increased risk of thyroid cancer among most exposed children and recommended they be closely followed.4
However, putting these disasters together does reveal some shared characteristics. In Hiroshima and Nagasaki, people were exposed to explosion (hibaku in Japanese); while those in Fukushima are exposed to radiation (also hibaku in Japanese).5, 6 These words share the same pronunciation, but use different Japanese characters. Both groups are living with the social and psychological uncertainties and implications of possible radiation exposure. Both groups also became higaisha or victims. The apocalyptic disruptions of their lives did not arise from their own choices, but from social and political decisions taken by others. This reaction is common in radiation disasters worldwide.7
The survivors of a chronic environmental disaster typically seek redress around questions of care, compensation, and clean-up.8 Although chronic environmental disasters have important medical dimensions, the human losses go far beyond the medical sphere. Below we briefly explore these three questions for Fukushima, examine the role of community engagement, and highlight changes needed to prevent another nuclear power plant disaster.
I added the bold, the italics and the underlining.
The most serious effects are psychological and stupid people whipping up hysteria are not helping.
The fact is that more people have likely died from the dangerous fossil fuel waste generated by assholes to run their computers to whine about Fukushima and so called "nuclear waste" than have died from the 75 years of commercial nuclear power operations.
What part of the bolded, italicized, and underlined statement in one of the world's most prestigious medical journals escapes the mind of a person who clearly doesn't give a shit about the roughly 70 to 80 million people who died from air pollution since the Fukushima reactors were breached in a natural disaster where 20,000 people died from seawater?
How come dumb shit anti-nukes aren't calling for the banning of coastal cities?
The death toll from air pollution is around 19,000 people per day, about 800 people per hour:
This information can be found here, also in the prestigious medical journal Lancet:
Global burden of 87 risk factors in 204 countries and territories, 19902019: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2019 (Lancet Volume 396, Issue 10258, 1723 October 2020, Pages 1223-1249). This study is a huge undertaking and the list of authors from around the world is rather long. These studies are always open sourced; and I invite people who want to carry on about Fukushima to open it and search the word "radiation." It appears once. Radon, a side product brought to the surface by fracking while we all wait for the grand so called "renewable energy" nirvana that did not come, is not here and won't come, appears however: Household radon, from the decay of natural uranium, which has been cycling through the environment ever since oxygen appeared in the Earth's atmosphere.
Here is what it says about air pollution deaths in the 2019 Global Burden of Disease Survey, if one is too busy to open it oneself because one is too busy carrying on about Fukushima:
Let me know if there are any dumb shits around the world who can find reference to Fukushima in this document.
Let me understand this. Am I supposed to credit the stupid selective attention of a person who clearly has never opened a science book and who clearly knows zero about radiobiology over the fact that people are dying from extreme heat in Asia today? Over the fact that while I've been embracing this dubious conversation with the moral and intellectual equivalent of anti-vax type 800 people or more have died from not using nuclear power?
I've been studying plutonium chemistry in the primary scientific literature for over 30 years; I'm not some paranoid asshole who screams and pulls his brains out through his hair follicles whenever the word "plutonium" is mentioned.
Stick to telling me about how radiostrontium sticks around for a million years. It's pretty fucking typical of people who just don't give a shit about reality.
It is thought that 70,000 people died from heat waves in Europe in the 2003 heatwave there; the death toll from recent extreme heat are sure to exceed that.
Jean-Marie Robine, Siu Lan K. Cheung, Sophie Le Roy, Herman Van Oyen, Clare Griffiths, Jean-Pierre Michel, François Richard Herrmann, Death toll exceeded 70,000 in Europe during the summer of 2003, Comptes Rendus Biologies, Volume 331, Issue 2, 2008, Pages 171-178.
The paper begins with these words:
Everyone remembers? Really? Would this include the assholes whining endlessly about Fukushima while pushing the bridges of their noses past their hemorrhoids?
I'd suggest that dumb shit anti-nukes shouldn't pretend to give a shit. They don't care how many millions of people die, how many tens of millions of people die, how many hundreds of millions of people die from dangerous fossil fuel waste or any other form of pollution. They only credit their imagination that someone somewhere might die from radiation and it fills their whithered intellects with terror that this might happen.
Their selective attention borders on criminally insane.
Their ethical level is clearly disgusting.
It is no more valuable to discuss the issue of risk with an anti-nuke than it is to discuss the existence of Covid with a Trumper. No amount of information or truth can effect the withered intellects of either of this type.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.