Steve Bannon vows MAGA will destroy 'Gestapo' FBI: 'We are a threat to the American state'

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72. They are pretty much permitted to say anything they want

unless it is found to be slanderous (and that is often hard to prove - although you see what it has taken to do so with Alex Jones and the Sandy Hook parents to get as far as they did) or is akin to making terroristic threats/threats of violence that might be reasonably enough to be carried out (vs "reporting about" such).

What might be more instructive is how Dominion Systems handles these guys based on their defamation suits against Ghouliani, the Kooky Kraken Krew, and the Faux Snooze RW loons.

Defamation Suit About Election Falsehoods Puts Fox on Its Heels

The suit, filed by Dominion Voting Systems, could be one of the most consequential First Amendment cases in a generation.

By Jeremy W. Peters
Aug. 13, 2022

In the weeks after President Donald J. Trump lost the 2020 election, the Fox Business host Lou Dobbs claimed to have “tremendous evidence” that voter fraud was to blame. That evidence never emerged but a new culprit in a supposed scheme to rig the election did: Dominion Voting Systems, a maker of election technology whose algorithms, Mr. Dobbs said, “were designed to be inaccurate.” Maria Bartiromo, another host on the network, falsely stated that “Nancy Pelosi has an interest in this company.” Jeanine Pirro, a Fox News personality, speculated that “technical glitches” in Dominion’s software “could have affected thousands of absentee mail-in ballots.” Those unfounded accusations are now among the dozens cited in Dominion’s defamation lawsuit against the Fox Corporation, which alleges that Fox repeatedly aired false, far-fetched and exaggerated allegations about Dominion and its purported role in a plot to steal votes from Mr. Trump.

Those bogus assertions — made day after day, including allegations that Dominion was a front for the communist government in Venezuela and that its voting machines could switch votes from one candidate to another — are at the center of the libel suit, one of the most extraordinary brought against an American media company in more than a generation. First Amendment scholars say the case is a rarity in libel law. Defamation claims typically involve a single disputed statement. But Dominion’s complaint is replete with example after example of false statements, many of them made after the facts were widely known. And such suits are often quickly dismissed, because of the First Amendment’s broad free speech protections and the high-powered lawyers available to a major media company like Fox.

If they do go forward, they are usually settled out of court to spare both sides the costly spectacle of a trial. But Dominion’s $1.6 billion case against Fox has been steadily progressing in Delaware state court this summer, inching ever closer to trial. There have been no moves from either side toward a settlement, according to interviews with several people involved in the case. The two companies are deep into document discovery, combing through years of each other’s emails and text messages, and taking depositions. These people said they expected Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, who own and control the Fox Corporation, to sit for depositions as soon as this month.

The case threatens a huge financial and reputational blow to Fox, by far the most powerful conservative media company in the country. But legal scholars say it also has the potential to deliver a powerful verdict on the kind of pervasive and pernicious falsehoods — and the people who spread them — that are undermining the country’s faith in democracy. “We’re litigating history in a way: What is historical truth?” said Lee Levine, a noted First Amendment lawyer who has argued several major media defamation cases. “Here you’re taking very recent current events and going through a process which, at the end, is potentially going to declare what the correct version of history is.”

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/business/media/fox-dominion-lawsuit-first-amendment.html