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Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
10. No problem,
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:56 PM
Oct 2013

It's chronicled in Pres. Clinton's book, My Life, fascinating reading, would recommend it.

Here's what Pres. Clinton said about the defeat of dems in '94,


"Just before the House vote (on the crime bill), Speaker Tom Foley and majority leader Dick Gephardt had made a last-ditch appeal to me to remove the assault weapons ban from the bill. They argued that many Democrats who represented closely divided districts had already...defied the NRA once on the Brady bill vote. They said that if we made them walk the plank again on the assault weapons ban, the overall bill might not pass, and that if it did, many Democrats who voted for it would not survive the election in November. Jack Brooks, the House Judiciary Committee chairman from Texas, told me the same thing...Jack was convinced that if we didn't drop the ban, the NRA would beat a lot of Democrats by terrifying gun owners....Foley, Gephardt, and Brooks were right and I was wrong. The price...would be heavy casualties among its defenders." (Pages 611-612)

"On November 8, we got the living daylights beat out of us, losing eight Senate races and fifty-four House seats, the largest defeat for our party since 1946....The NRA had a great night. They beat both Speaker Tom Foley and Jack Brooks, two of the ablest members of Congress, who had warned me this would happen. Foley was the first Speaker to be defeated in more than a century. Jack Brooks had supported the NRA for years and had led the fight against the assault weapons ban in the House, but as chairman of the Judiciary Committee he had voted for the overall crime bill even after the ban was put into it. The NRA was an unforgiving master: one strike and you're out. The gun lobby claimed to have defeated nineteen of the twenty-four members on its hit list. They did at least that much damage...." (Pages 629-630)
A good man KT2000 Oct 2013 #1
It's only gotten worse since then. nyquil_man Oct 2013 #2
And She titanicdave Oct 2013 #22
He lost because on the eve of the vote for the Crime Omnibus Bill. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #5
didn't know that KT2000 Oct 2013 #8
No problem, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #10
Former President Clinton OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2013 #25
A truly honorable man. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #32
I blame it on poisonous talk radio, Limbaugh and the likes. n/t Cleita Oct 2013 #12
That's not the way President Clinton saw it. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #15
Guess who was ginning up all the talk about that? Cleita Oct 2013 #16
Yet it was solid Democrats who told Pres. Clinton what would happen if he insisted on the AWB. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #20
Believe what you like. I believe what I think is right too. Cleita Oct 2013 #21
Ok that's a good point, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #23
I think you underestimate the number of centrists/swing voters, and Democrats that own firearms AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #30
You guys really never worried about assault weapons access Cleita Oct 2013 #33
That's not true at all. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #34
And now its wide open again warrant46 Oct 2013 #56
Not exactly. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #57
I remember that election very well Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2013 #24
That was a heartbreak for me when he lost flygal Oct 2013 #3
May his memory be a blessing. meti57b Oct 2013 #4
One of the best... Tom_Foolery Oct 2013 #6
requiescat in pacem, mr. foley. niyad Oct 2013 #7
Wow. R.I.P. BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #9
Cross Easy, Mr. Speaker. nolabear Oct 2013 #11
K&R for respect. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #13
RIP Mr. Foley cristianmarie533 Oct 2013 #14
He was one of the good ones. Cleita Oct 2013 #17
Very sad ourfuneral Oct 2013 #18
Hear hear 2naSalit Oct 2013 #19
AND LEE ATWATER blueknight Oct 2013 #27
RIP darkangel218 Oct 2013 #26
One of the great Speakers billh58 Oct 2013 #28
Bill Clinton would probably disagree with you derby378 Oct 2013 #29
Bill Clinton billh58 Oct 2013 #37
Sorry, going to have to go with Bill Clinton. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #39
Washington State may be a blue state, but AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #40
"Only NRA apologists could turn a tribute to a great Democrat into a Second Amendment argument." NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #44
Thank you... derby378 Oct 2013 #51
I got blocked from GCRA group for daring to challenge a statement he made. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #52
The GCRA is a safe group. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #53
Thanks for the information, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #54
The Honorable William Jefferson Clinton disagrees with you. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #31
rightwing mythology at work on DU jimmy the one Oct 2013 #45
Whatever you say. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #47
So long, Speaker Foley... ReRe Oct 2013 #35
Rest in Peace this should be the headline on DU tonight! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #36
I'm going to disagree with the Big Dog here jmowreader Oct 2013 #38
I'm sorry he passed away, but the guy was a hack.... hadrons Oct 2013 #41
The things I learn Delphinus Oct 2013 #42
Thanks for this. he gave us Gingrich 'cuz of Congressional pay raises. Jeebus. kath Oct 2013 #43
No way! washnwmn Oct 2013 #50
My condolences to his family. Beacool Oct 2013 #46
Rest in peace shenmue Oct 2013 #48
He was a rare breed in congress, statesman and gentleman. washnwmn Oct 2013 #49
The first speaker i ever worked for Recursion Oct 2013 #55
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