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billh58

(6,635 posts)
28. One of the great Speakers
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:41 PM
Oct 2013

of, and for, the Democratic Party. From a recent MSN article:

"Foley wasn't the victim of scandal or charges of gross incompetence. Instead, his ability as speaker to bring home federal benefits was a point Nethercutt used against him, accusing him of pork-barrel politics.

The public was restless that year, and the mood was dark and angry, Foley recalled later. The electorate turned on many of the Democrats it had installed in a landslide just two years earlier, dumping six congressmen in the Democrat-favored Washington state.

He was replaced as speaker by his nemesis, Georgia Republican Rep. Newt Gingrich, who later called Washington state the "ground zero" of the sweep that gave Republicans their first control of the House in 40 years. Foley, it turned out, was their prize casualty.

In a 2004 Associated Press interview, Foley said, after Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota lost his seat, that the same factors hurt them both: Voters did not appreciate the value of service as party leader, and rural voters were turning against Democrats."

http://news.msn.com/obits/ex-house-speaker-tom-foley-dies-at-84-1?ocid=ansnews11

Contrary to what Gungeoneers would like us to believe, the main cause of the Republican sweep in those elections was Newt Gingrich and the Contract With America neoconservative propaganda machine. The NRA had some influence on local elections, but the Republican landslide in Congress was solely because of the birth of the ultra-conservative movement which was spearheaded by the AEI and Newt Gingrich. This criminal cabal would eventually be the principal authors of PNAC, which led to the Iraq atrocities.

Although the NRA has way too much political influence, and needs to be eradicated as a political entity, the "cold dead hands" Gungeoneers seldom miss a chance to spread neoconservative NRA lies of "the Democrats are coming for our guns."

A good man KT2000 Oct 2013 #1
It's only gotten worse since then. nyquil_man Oct 2013 #2
And She titanicdave Oct 2013 #22
He lost because on the eve of the vote for the Crime Omnibus Bill. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #5
didn't know that KT2000 Oct 2013 #8
No problem, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #10
Former President Clinton OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2013 #25
A truly honorable man. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #32
I blame it on poisonous talk radio, Limbaugh and the likes. n/t Cleita Oct 2013 #12
That's not the way President Clinton saw it. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #15
Guess who was ginning up all the talk about that? Cleita Oct 2013 #16
Yet it was solid Democrats who told Pres. Clinton what would happen if he insisted on the AWB. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #20
Believe what you like. I believe what I think is right too. Cleita Oct 2013 #21
Ok that's a good point, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #23
I think you underestimate the number of centrists/swing voters, and Democrats that own firearms AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #30
You guys really never worried about assault weapons access Cleita Oct 2013 #33
That's not true at all. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #34
And now its wide open again warrant46 Oct 2013 #56
Not exactly. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #57
I remember that election very well Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2013 #24
That was a heartbreak for me when he lost flygal Oct 2013 #3
May his memory be a blessing. meti57b Oct 2013 #4
One of the best... Tom_Foolery Oct 2013 #6
requiescat in pacem, mr. foley. niyad Oct 2013 #7
Wow. R.I.P. BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #9
Cross Easy, Mr. Speaker. nolabear Oct 2013 #11
K&R for respect. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #13
RIP Mr. Foley cristianmarie533 Oct 2013 #14
He was one of the good ones. Cleita Oct 2013 #17
Very sad ourfuneral Oct 2013 #18
Hear hear 2naSalit Oct 2013 #19
AND LEE ATWATER blueknight Oct 2013 #27
RIP darkangel218 Oct 2013 #26
One of the great Speakers billh58 Oct 2013 #28
Bill Clinton would probably disagree with you derby378 Oct 2013 #29
Bill Clinton billh58 Oct 2013 #37
Sorry, going to have to go with Bill Clinton. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #39
Washington State may be a blue state, but AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #40
"Only NRA apologists could turn a tribute to a great Democrat into a Second Amendment argument." NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #44
Thank you... derby378 Oct 2013 #51
I got blocked from GCRA group for daring to challenge a statement he made. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #52
The GCRA is a safe group. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #53
Thanks for the information, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #54
The Honorable William Jefferson Clinton disagrees with you. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #31
rightwing mythology at work on DU jimmy the one Oct 2013 #45
Whatever you say. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #47
So long, Speaker Foley... ReRe Oct 2013 #35
Rest in Peace this should be the headline on DU tonight! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #36
I'm going to disagree with the Big Dog here jmowreader Oct 2013 #38
I'm sorry he passed away, but the guy was a hack.... hadrons Oct 2013 #41
The things I learn Delphinus Oct 2013 #42
Thanks for this. he gave us Gingrich 'cuz of Congressional pay raises. Jeebus. kath Oct 2013 #43
No way! washnwmn Oct 2013 #50
My condolences to his family. Beacool Oct 2013 #46
Rest in peace shenmue Oct 2013 #48
He was a rare breed in congress, statesman and gentleman. washnwmn Oct 2013 #49
The first speaker i ever worked for Recursion Oct 2013 #55
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