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billh58

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37. Bill Clinton
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:05 PM
Oct 2013

was facing many problems, and gun control was constrained to specific areas, including Washington State which Tom Foley represented. The main reason that Congress changed hands was a successful neoconservative "Contract With America" propaganda campaign against his health care proposals, and his other DLC attempts at "centrist" triangulation positions.

"The Democratic Party had run the House for all but four of the preceding 62 years. With help from the Harry and Louise television ads, the Republican party was able to unite the majority of Americans against President Clinton's proposed healthcare reform. Capitalizing on the negative perception Clinton received because of this push, the Republicans alleged Clinton had abandoned the New Democrat platform he campaigned on during the 1992 Presidential election and united behind Newt Gingrich's Contract with America, which promoted immediate action on institutional reform and the decentralization of federal authority."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1994

The damage that Newt Gingrich and his band of criminals did to this country remains, and as much as Gungeoneers would like to believe otherwise, it had very little to do with the Democratic Party's stand on gun control. To say that we Democrats do not "support the Second Amendment" is just perpetuating the neoconservative NRA lie. Quoting portions of Bill Clinton's book out of context does absolutely nothing to address the facts at hand.

NRA supported lies about over-reaching gun control by Democrats may sway elections in some areas, especially where it is reinforced by so-called Liberals who parrot the NRA propaganda. In the end, Americans care much more about money and the economy than they do about some nebulous political threat of losing their Second Amendment rights.

P.S. Only NRA apologists could turn a tribute to a great Democrat into a Second Amendment argument.

A good man KT2000 Oct 2013 #1
It's only gotten worse since then. nyquil_man Oct 2013 #2
And She titanicdave Oct 2013 #22
He lost because on the eve of the vote for the Crime Omnibus Bill. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #5
didn't know that KT2000 Oct 2013 #8
No problem, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #10
Former President Clinton OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2013 #25
A truly honorable man. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #32
I blame it on poisonous talk radio, Limbaugh and the likes. n/t Cleita Oct 2013 #12
That's not the way President Clinton saw it. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #15
Guess who was ginning up all the talk about that? Cleita Oct 2013 #16
Yet it was solid Democrats who told Pres. Clinton what would happen if he insisted on the AWB. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #20
Believe what you like. I believe what I think is right too. Cleita Oct 2013 #21
Ok that's a good point, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #23
I think you underestimate the number of centrists/swing voters, and Democrats that own firearms AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #30
You guys really never worried about assault weapons access Cleita Oct 2013 #33
That's not true at all. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #34
And now its wide open again warrant46 Oct 2013 #56
Not exactly. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #57
I remember that election very well Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2013 #24
That was a heartbreak for me when he lost flygal Oct 2013 #3
May his memory be a blessing. meti57b Oct 2013 #4
One of the best... Tom_Foolery Oct 2013 #6
requiescat in pacem, mr. foley. niyad Oct 2013 #7
Wow. R.I.P. BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #9
Cross Easy, Mr. Speaker. nolabear Oct 2013 #11
K&R for respect. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #13
RIP Mr. Foley cristianmarie533 Oct 2013 #14
He was one of the good ones. Cleita Oct 2013 #17
Very sad ourfuneral Oct 2013 #18
Hear hear 2naSalit Oct 2013 #19
AND LEE ATWATER blueknight Oct 2013 #27
RIP darkangel218 Oct 2013 #26
One of the great Speakers billh58 Oct 2013 #28
Bill Clinton would probably disagree with you derby378 Oct 2013 #29
Bill Clinton billh58 Oct 2013 #37
Sorry, going to have to go with Bill Clinton. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #39
Washington State may be a blue state, but AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #40
"Only NRA apologists could turn a tribute to a great Democrat into a Second Amendment argument." NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #44
Thank you... derby378 Oct 2013 #51
I got blocked from GCRA group for daring to challenge a statement he made. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #52
The GCRA is a safe group. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #53
Thanks for the information, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #54
The Honorable William Jefferson Clinton disagrees with you. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #31
rightwing mythology at work on DU jimmy the one Oct 2013 #45
Whatever you say. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #47
So long, Speaker Foley... ReRe Oct 2013 #35
Rest in Peace this should be the headline on DU tonight! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #36
I'm going to disagree with the Big Dog here jmowreader Oct 2013 #38
I'm sorry he passed away, but the guy was a hack.... hadrons Oct 2013 #41
The things I learn Delphinus Oct 2013 #42
Thanks for this. he gave us Gingrich 'cuz of Congressional pay raises. Jeebus. kath Oct 2013 #43
No way! washnwmn Oct 2013 #50
My condolences to his family. Beacool Oct 2013 #46
Rest in peace shenmue Oct 2013 #48
He was a rare breed in congress, statesman and gentleman. washnwmn Oct 2013 #49
The first speaker i ever worked for Recursion Oct 2013 #55
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