Family rescues kidnapped Duson woman, kills captor

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36. Not so fast there. Saying 'ignored by the court-police system' is an error, IMO.

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This is a frequent mistake I see at DU. It goes to a lack of being taught how the government is constructed. It would take a lot of heat out of discussions when one looks at them logically, without set prejudices.

An example, just because some people get it and some don't, not saying you, but this anecdote is easy to undertand.

You know how people like to play with cats with dangling toys for them to catch?

Well, most cats I had fell for that one. But one never did so I stopped doing it with her as she made her case that I was insulting her intelliigence or being an ass, rather forcefully with her claws.

I'd dangle the shiny and she'd give it one look. Then leap up and smack my hand. That failing, she scratched it. If I persisted, she'd bite it. She was smart that way. She'd also give a certain look of disdain only cats can give.

You always go for the head and not the hand. The cops, courts and even the executive branch serve at the whim of the legislature and they tell them how to do things. The idea of this came from the leglislature, not the cops or the courts. Berating the hands (cops, courts, agencies) is what the RWNJs do.

I've seen a state AG beg the legislature to stop passing laws that went against federal civil rights laws, because the people expected to have those rights honored. Thus the state was overwelmed with law suits against agencies, because as creatures of the legislature, they had to follow the laws. And in each cases, the AG said, the state always lost after having to fight a case they knew was wrong, but were forced to defend. They didn't write the law, but it was on the books. That's how this works.

Legislatures make the laws that the courts rule upon, that police are authorized to enforce. Force being the operative syllable.

Numerous governments who have been defunded by right wingers, rather than allocate lack the money to try domestic cases and hire investigators, jail the violent, provide funding for survelliance.

And if they followed that man around, people would say it was harrassment. If they had arrested and held him longer to keep her safe, there would calls saying he was punished before he committed a crime. And the lege is the one who says who stays for how long. If they followed him around, it'd be 'Look! Police State!'

When agencies aren't funded, they are not being allowed to have the infrastructure to stop this, by bull headed governors and legislators who don't have the sense go gave a June bug. After all, taxes are evil! Starve the Beast! Free-dumb!

And some states have simply repealed domestic violence laws, taking the off the books. And defunding is the same things, which is why ALEC and the RWNJs scream about taxes. They want people to have to live under them.

'Family values' repukes have said that a woman is wrong to leave her husband even if he is abusive to her and the kids. After all, battered women's shelters, welfare to help her and her kids, protection programs, housing, etc. cost tax money.

The other side of their game is getting RWNJs to spew that it's Gawd's Will. So the women can't hardly win in that environment. But it really is all about not taxing the rich in those states to maintain a civil society.

Different states that still do have laws, differ. I've lived in a couple of states. In one, the woman was expected to chase the courts and the law for help and file the charges. It's well known that when a woman tells an abuser she is leaving, it greatly increase the chance he will kill her to keep control. Few women pressed charges, and it wasn't because the cops didn't want them to. They had no support system to protect them like a family or a shelter. They were on their own in those states.

In other states, domestic violence does not require the woman to do much, as the first sign of abuse, both the combatants and victims are put in the system to figure out what is going on and to stop it happening again.

Those states clearly see the prevention of domestic abuse to not be a private or family matter as those others states do that expect the victim to file charges. They see it as their business, as they know they will have to deal with the fallout later. The measures taken really tick off the 'family values' crowd.

There is also another reason that the RWNJs hate the ACA - it funds these things. There is a lot in the ACA the RWNJs and ALEC (wait, that's redundant) hate and demand be stopped in addition to that.

It's not about just health care. It's about the social changes people have demanded. Like a woman's right to abortion, yeah, they are freaking out.

Did LA sign up fo the ACA expansion?