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119. If the government is controlling prices

Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:12 PM

Nov 2014

so business owners can't make a profit and have to turn to the black market, you can't exactly blame them for a toilet paper shortage.

No one sells below cost and stays in business for long. And that goes for the poor woman on the street selling bananas, too.

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Traders Are 'Scared As Hell' Of What's Happening In Venezuela [View all] FLPanhandle Nov 2014 OP

VZ threads just aren't the same without EFerrari KamaAina Nov 2014 #1

Fully agree! RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #2

I have notified her via Facebook KamaAina Nov 2014 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author IkeRepublican Nov 2014 #4

Army coup? Does Diosdado Cabello still have friends in uniform? MADem Nov 2014 #5

You talking about 'big hair' or whoever it was? I still keep scratching my head over this thing. freshwest Nov 2014 #28

"this may all be media spin"--since the VZ gov controls the media, it's not spin wordpix Nov 2014 #33

"God Given" Hair! MADem Nov 2014 #43

MADem - did you live in VZ at one time? Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #65

My grandfather did. MADem Nov 2014 #70

I marked it off my vacation list. Thanks! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #88

About that food supply thing.. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #46

"The USA gov'ts have invaded damn near every So. American country" EX500rider Nov 2014 #102

You are correct.....i meant to say.... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #109

I've seen this movie before Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #92

And if there is a capital strike, christx30 Nov 2014 #105

How much do you know about the northern South American countries? Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #113

"since a dark-skinned man (Chavez) had the gall to be elected president" ? EX500rider Nov 2014 #133

Duh, I know that the U.S. deals with dark-skinned politicians Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #135

Government currency laws are the problem hack89 Nov 2014 #116

And the price controls... EX500rider Nov 2014 #134

Saudi Arabia/OPEC deflating oil price to compete with natural gas industry(fracking) Divernan Nov 2014 #6

That stuff about jobs from the pipeline is a bunch of malarky. Someone built a pipeling through our jwirr Nov 2014 #10

So what would be the difference with any other building project? 7962 Nov 2014 #11

The difference is that leak I mentioned. Those other projects do not threaten our natural resources. jwirr Nov 2014 #13

Well, we've already seen railcars spilling or exploding. Tankers wouldnt be much safer. 7962 Nov 2014 #14

Fairly safe is not good enough over the aquifer. Why don't they go around the aquifer? If they go jwirr Nov 2014 #15

sounds like a good idea, so maybe someone should present a bill specifying that 7962 Nov 2014 #16

No, we might as well tell the Canadian fools to Darb Nov 2014 #125

KSA has cut oil output. what has VZ done? ...nt quadrature Nov 2014 #27

Okay so what is going on here in laymens terms? I have read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein jwirr Nov 2014 #7

In layman's terms: Chavez and Maduro fucked up VZ. nt Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #9

Yes, but the CIA/USA will be blamed even by many right here on DU! 7962 Nov 2014 #12

Well, bu$h certainly didn't help things Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #25

That was a LONG time ago and has little bearing on the current farce. 7962 Nov 2014 #29

There is nothing wrong in Venezuela. harun Nov 2014 #41

You forgot the sarcasm thingy. Some folks might actually think you're SERIOUS! 7962 Nov 2014 #44

I am serious harun Nov 2014 #53

I'm quite sure the citizens of VN would call your assertation bullshit. GGJohn Nov 2014 #55

The greedy pigs might harun Nov 2014 #57

Stop it! I cant stop laughing! "Viva la Revolution" & pass the leaves! HAHAHAAHA! 7962 Nov 2014 #60

Ideology trumps everything. Let them eat speeches. Throd Nov 2014 #61

Now THATS a darn good saying. I'm gonna remember that. Thanks. 7962 Nov 2014 #62

I think you need some re-education, Comrade. delta17 Nov 2014 #89

Looks like you've had some education yourself. harun Nov 2014 #115

Stop it, GGJohn Nov 2014 #73

And you are right. We all know it. The sociopaths among us try to keep the truth buried Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #59

Yes some do try to keep the truth buried.. EX500rider Nov 2014 #67

God, you too? GGJohn Nov 2014 #74

Yes. Zorra Nov 2014 #104

So if you don't think Venezuela is some kind of paradise you're a "sociopath"? Really? EX500rider Nov 2014 #130

Who are you calling a "capitalist pig?" nt MADem Nov 2014 #71

Look for the IMF to be flying in soon as the dust settles dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #21

This, exactly ... brett_jv Nov 2014 #23

Austerity can't be any worse then it is right now hack89 Nov 2014 #32

Shortages are something you can do something about. Those loans from the IMF make your country jwirr Nov 2014 #35

The government is spending a lot more money than it brings in hack89 Nov 2014 #38

You are right that neither way is going to make much difference. However we have seen the IMF in jwirr Nov 2014 #40

I use austerity in its generic sense hack89 Nov 2014 #42

Well... Adrahil Nov 2014 #117

They mortgaged their future to China, too. They owe China tens and tens of BILLIONS.... MADem Nov 2014 #45

WE owe China tens and tens of BILLIONS.... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #48

We can still pay our bills and meet our obligations hack89 Nov 2014 #52

We aren't giving away OIL to them. Maduro signed a deal with them to pay them in cheap OIL. MADem Nov 2014 #54

Okay now I see the connection. Let them fight it out - don't really care who wins as long as you jwirr Nov 2014 #34

Interesting that some of the damning evidence comes from Stratfor RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #8

Very interesting ozone_man Nov 2014 #90

Yes. What's sad is that our propaganda frequently becomes self-fulfilling RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #91

Capitalists are still bitter over Chavez, eh? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #17

It's the Venezuelans who should be bitter. Throd Nov 2014 #18

Why? hack89 Nov 2014 #19

Of course, it's been 'mismanaged' ... I mean really, how ELSE could a 'Leftist' system be? brett_jv Nov 2014 #24

Frankly, I don't think the US cares one iota about Venezuela FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #30

Actually socialism and mismanagement do not go hand in hand hack89 Nov 2014 #31

I'd say that empty shelves and 60+% inflation.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #20

Absolutely. I doubt that any ideology is needed to produce anger under those situations. jwirr Nov 2014 #36

Venezuela has certainly been an enlightening experiment in non-capitalism (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #96

A frightened bond trader daleo Nov 2014 #22

Frightened bond traders ROCK Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #26

Most of the posts in this thread read like something from FreeRepublic. candelista Nov 2014 #37

Pointing out that VZ is poorly managed and has wrecked its economy hack89 Nov 2014 #39

We have a lot of low-information posters here Bragi Nov 2014 #47

Thank GOD we have you here to save us from ourselves! 7962 Nov 2014 #63

If you could, please point me to the information that will help me understand how VZ doesn't have hughee99 Nov 2014 #131

Thanks, but I'll pass on that nt Bragi Nov 2014 #136

Oh, please. We're supposed to "support" this kind of shit? Get real. MADem Nov 2014 #49

Well, I tried to say it nicely, but DAMN that was well done!! nt 7962 Nov 2014 #64

Thank you. MADem Nov 2014 #66

Looks like you scared them all off. No replies. But then, what could they SAY? nt 7962 Nov 2014 #110

Pointing out the truth about VN is a RW talking point? GGJohn Nov 2014 #50

I think there should be a 5000 post minimum before someone can challenge another's presence. nt Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #56

It's been that way too long. Sad to read the #### storm from the cluster of winger trolls every time Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #58

Yeah, we're all winger trolls because we like to tell the truth about mismanagement and corruption GGJohn Nov 2014 #75

You "like to tell the truth about mismanagement and corruption in the VN. Govt." Interesting. Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #79

Stop it, yer killing me. GGJohn Nov 2014 #84

"The troll cluster here passes on, with great heat, what the oddly crafted right-wing line" EX500rider Nov 2014 #103

Truth is inconvenient isn't it. GGJohn Nov 2014 #107

So is this the way it works, anyone who disagrees with you on the corruption in GGJohn Nov 2014 #108

You know it's possible to like baseball and hate th Yankees Adrahil Nov 2014 #132

Avoiding or denying uncomfortable truths is a FreeRepublic trait FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #72

OFFS.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #118

Even "liberals" are brainwashed to hate genuine Leftism. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #126

NO. You are mistaken. Adrahil Nov 2014 #129

The only scared trader is one who has taken the wrong position nt Depaysement Nov 2014 #51

This smells like a Shock Doctrine ratfuck. hifiguy Nov 2014 #68

That's my suspicion, too Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #93

Yeah, that's it, it couldn't possibly be the fault of the VN govts. mismanagement of the economy. GGJohn Nov 2014 #98

Did I say that the Venezuelan government was perfect? Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #101

If the government is controlling prices TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #119

True, most of the businesses are still in private hands, GGJohn Nov 2014 #121

Just like what Nixon did, then Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #123

And, just like in VN. it backfired badly. GGJohn Nov 2014 #124

Yup. The Mighty Wurlitzer is getting it's freak on. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #127

Anyone beisdes me ever heard of "The Peter Principle?" Archae Nov 2014 #69

Thought-provoking attempt to try to stretch "banana republic" to fit Maduro's administration! Wow. Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #76

And this has what to do with what's going on in VN today? GGJohn Nov 2014 #78

Ask the 1 who wrote "Maduro is on way over his head and is beginning the autocratic "banana republic Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #81

Well, he is in over his head and well on the way towards a banana republic. GGJohn Nov 2014 #85

The pattern is there. Archae Nov 2014 #80

Pattern is there? You forgot they are puppet governments put in place by US interests, Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #82

I guess when all else fails, blame the US govt for VN's woes. GGJohn Nov 2014 #86

Obama was positively cackling when he gave the order to impose hyperinflation there (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #95

I think yours is the winning post for today! 7962 Nov 2014 #111

Will the Vultures like Paul Singer come in at the last minute and buy the debt for a fraction randys1 Nov 2014 #77

No. VZ will simply default hack89 Nov 2014 #83

What an absolute mess Chavez and Maduro have made of that place. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #87

It was such a paradise before. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #94

The problem is the dependence on oil, and has been a problem since at least the 1920s happyslug Nov 2014 #99

Bond traders, generally, are lying sacks of shit. Sort of like selling used cars. bemildred Nov 2014 #97

Hey that Bolivarian Socialism is really working out well ! Imajika Nov 2014 #100

Really? Mugabe? I guess I missed those OPs unless it was before my time. 7962 Nov 2014 #112

If you follow the western media narritive on Ven, everyone there should have died a decade ago. Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #106

the collapse of oil prices should put a damper on dirty oil projects here too yurbud Nov 2014 #114

Hi... sendero Nov 2014 #120

You know it's bad when Cubans are fleeing that country. Kaleva Nov 2014 #122

Here's a thought; maybe the Maduro supporters here should move their savings to Venezuela... brooklynite Nov 2014 #128