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happyslug

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41. Not so much Downtown locations, but the suburban STRIP malls
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:30 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:56 PM - Edit history (1)

That is where the prime Real Estate for retail is. Kmart stand alone stores have to compete directly with Walmart, and in that type of fight the store with the lowest overhead is going to win. i.e unless Walmart over expands (and it does NOT look like that is the case), Kmart is dead.

Sears can survive at its mall locations, but the Malls have a problem. Since Reagan income for the lower 90% of the population has either held steady or declined. It has increase for the 1% and most of the 10%, but neither was ever Sears core market. Sears aimed at the Lower Middle Class and the Working class, and those two groups are the ones with the greatest increase in costs (housing, Student loans etc) and no net increase in income. Thus Sears and the rest of the stores in the Malls are hunting. Malls tend to cater to people making $25,000 to $100,000 a year, the Working Class and the Lower Middle Class. Quality is still a factor in this group when they go to the mall.

Kmart and Walmart aimed at the Working Class, people making less then $50,000 years today and in that market price is the most important factor. This group will switch stores over just a few dollars, even if it means buying something of inferior quality.

Now the Poor do go to the Mall for some items, and the Working Class and Lower Middle Class go to Kmart and Walmart for items they need. The key is what group is the Store aimed at and the Malls are aimed at a higher income group then the stand alone stores like Kmart and Walmart. Thus the Stores in the Mall have a little cushion compared to Kmart, a cushion provided by providing higher quality items. The problem with the Malls is many people are going on line to get their higher quality items. You no longer have to go to Sears to get top quality tools for example. Yes you could get good tools elsewhere in the 1960s to 2000, but Sears is where people went for high quality tools that were to be used around the house. Sears has done little to expand that section of their business for it has low turn over and profit compared to Clothing. On the other hand, people went to Sears for Tools not Clothing.

The most successful stores concentrates on its strengths (Walmart uses its ability to get low prices from supplies and thus has low prices but often at the cost of low quality, that is Walmart's Strength). JC Penney has concentrated in business wear for decades, and people have said it would go under for decades, but has survived for JC Penney knows its niche and does a successful job fulfilling that niche. Do people go to JCPenney for high end Business wear? No, but they go to JC Penney for decent but acceptable business clothing.

Sears was known for Tools and outside equipment (i.e. a "Man's Store", yes a lot of women went to Sears for the tools and outdoor equipment, and using the term "Man's Store" is sexist, but in many ways accurate if you view traditional sex roles and know that such roles never did exist except in theory). Clothing was always high profit and high turnover when compared to tools and thus what a lot of retailers want to sell, but Clothing was NEVER Sear's Strength.

As to Sears Clothing, my Sister called Sears Clothing "Black mail" marketing. A Husband went to Sears to buy a new drill, but a different drill then the other three he already had. His wife goes along and throws in some clothing for herself and the kids. The Husband could object, but he wants his drill, thus the clothing was purchased. This is where Sears clothing sales started and remain. Sear Clothing was thus "Blackmail" by wives to get what wives wanted in exchange to letting the Husband get what they wanted Such "Blackmail" Clothing was how many people ended up buying clothing from Sears. Sear then tried to make Sears a place to go for Clothing over the last 50 or more years but has failed, no one goes to Sears for Clothing unless nothing else is available. Thus clothing has NEVER been Sear's Strong point and even when clothing became very profitable, Sears should have understood clothing was NOT what brought people into its stores. You concentrate on what draws people to your store, not on what people buy while in your store. The difference is important and a lesson not learned by Sears and why Sears is dieing.

That catalog came out the year I was born! Archae Dec 2014 #1
I've got 3 years on you and yes all the Sears/Penny catalogs were a delight with Purveyor Dec 2014 #9
I still have a 1970 JC Penney Christmas catalog. Archae Dec 2014 #12
I can't remember the year but must have been around '68 when the Spring/Summer Purveyor Dec 2014 #16
I loved flipping thru the "wishbook" as a child Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #77
Here is a link to mine Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #15
More, more mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2014 #67
lol. little girl ski pants - pants with the thing that went under your foot. I had those. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #78
I did too. My mom got the Penney's catalog. AngryOldDem Dec 2014 #87
IMO the worst thing for Sears LiberalElite Dec 2014 #2
Ha...I was just reading this to my coworkers and saying the same thing davidpdx Dec 2014 #4
Indeed. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #30
sears stores are a mess JI7 Dec 2014 #3
True, but not easy to do when you've cut staffing to the bone. MANative Dec 2014 #7
I worked at a Sears store for almost a decade weeks shy of that Kalidurga Dec 2014 #28
IMO Sears and KMart both preyed on poor people with high prices and easy credit. djean111 Dec 2014 #5
Where Kmart seemed to fail in my opinion... Blanks Dec 2014 #65
They had multiple failures like not investing in the stores themselves cstanleytech Dec 2014 #70
I guess Randian philosophy doesn't work in the real world n2doc Dec 2014 #6
Yeah, I remember hearing about that awhile back Bradical79 Dec 2014 #64
Great article.. sendero Dec 2014 #88
I guess the vulture capitalists have stripped that carcass clean. nt JeffHead Dec 2014 #8
Eddie Lampert is a vulture capitalist adieu Dec 2014 #10
that is interesting information glinda Dec 2014 #13
Not so much Downtown locations, but the suburban STRIP malls happyslug Dec 2014 #41
The deals at our local Sears are amazing du_grad Dec 2014 #47
Sears clothing Freddie Dec 2014 #53
Growing Up Sixties RobinA Dec 2014 #59
I did NOT say the clothing was bad, it had to be good for the "Blackmail" to work happyslug Dec 2014 #76
The point is adieu Dec 2014 #50
My point was the land was purchased in the 1950s and 1960s in suburbia. happyslug Dec 2014 #75
They were killed by Amazon. kwassa Dec 2014 #11
Amazon is even beating Ebay. L0oniX Dec 2014 #19
That is amazing RoverSuswade Dec 2014 #33
Half the things I just bought were cheaper on Amazon. L0oniX Dec 2014 #35
I guess it depends on what you're buying. RoverSuswade Dec 2014 #38
Ebay is a marketplace of individual sellers thesquanderer Dec 2014 #39
Many businesses now sell on ebay. New products. At fixed prices. Demit Dec 2014 #43
Sure. But you're still buying from those businesses, not from eBay. thesquanderer Dec 2014 #48
I see a lot of Best Buy retail on Ebay. L0oniX Dec 2014 #66
if you really look you can find places that beat both Skittles Dec 2014 #51
ebay let businesses mix with regular listings, all ebay has left is paypal convenience Sunlei Dec 2014 #63
I disagree. Feron Dec 2014 #25
This Was My Experience RobinA Dec 2014 #60
My washer broke. Lid switch. christx30 Dec 2014 #36
WalMart and BestBuy did far more damage than Amazon. Xithras Dec 2014 #74
They just wanted the properties to sell - let both Sears and K's inventory and stores turn to poo lunasun Dec 2014 #14
Just yesterday got a good deal there on a great Nordic Track winter jacket HomerRamone Dec 2014 #17
Have a happy Walton merry christmas. L0oniX Dec 2014 #18
The CEO is a total Ayn Rand lunatic. Bleacher Creature Dec 2014 #20
The boycotts worked yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #21
Big Box retail is dying. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #22
Not at Costco it isn't tularetom Dec 2014 #24
Costco is not Sears by any means. bemildred Dec 2014 #27
Costco is also union and takes care of it's people Kennah Dec 2014 #42
Quite. Not dumping on Costco. bemildred Dec 2014 #54
Only a few Costcos are organized, most are not. Ikonoklast Dec 2014 #57
Seriously? I thought they were unionized in all their stores. Kennah Dec 2014 #82
Regardless.. sendero Dec 2014 #89
Wasn't that Gemco? bobalew Dec 2014 #91
That one was different than Fedco. There were a number of such stores before Raygun. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #92
Today was the last day ours was open... ileus Dec 2014 #23
Ours closed two years ago. n/t moondust Dec 2014 #45
Thank you, Walmart! sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #26
I thoughts Matt had a big deal with Rosie oDonnell a while ago...did they let that go Township75 Dec 2014 #29
iirc it was Rosie who let it go Terra Alta Dec 2014 #32
Sears made their big mistake when they almost eliminated catalog sales csziggy Dec 2014 #31
I used to pore over the Sears catalog, and... 3catwoman3 Dec 2014 #34
yes, the catalogs were useful Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #79
You mean the Ayn Rand, libertarian model has failed??? rpannier Dec 2014 #37
I used to buy items that you couldn't find in a department store from Sears catalogue. No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #40
We were in Sears a few days ago Kennah Dec 2014 #44
Sears fucked itself over. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #46
Our Sears is really very nice. SoapBox Dec 2014 #49
20 years ago, the gateway Sears building in Northeast Philly was demolished BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #52
Are NewEgg and Amazon going to kill Best Buy next? IDemo Dec 2014 #55
From My Standpoint RobinA Dec 2014 #61
At least you got "help." AngryOldDem Dec 2014 #86
Quite frankly, I'm surprised Best Buy is still around. n/t AngryOldDem Dec 2014 #85
Give it 10 years, and the only place left is gonna be WalMart. blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #56
Gee . . . I wonder why. My recent Sears experience: Vinca Dec 2014 #58
Both never could adapt fast enough to online growth & got steamrolled by the others who did. Sunlei Dec 2014 #62
Home Depot's saving grace is they sell stuff you can't really buy online jmowreader Dec 2014 #71
I used to live about three or four blocks from Sears. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2014 #68
The target market for Sears is the high paid working class mb999 Dec 2014 #69
Sears was the net 100 years ago olddots Dec 2014 #72
Dang, I like Sears. Owl Dec 2014 #73
Sears used to be a wonderful place blackcrowflies Dec 2014 #80
Sears was the Amazon of one hundred years ago .... kwassa Dec 2014 #81
Yes...I used to live in a house which was, back in the 1920s, ordered from Sears... GReedDiamond Dec 2014 #83
and did it cost you $2,316.00? kwassa Dec 2014 #84
This particular house is in Sierra Madre, which is... GReedDiamond Dec 2014 #90
I really miss our K-Mart - I spent three hours yesterday traipsing around a huge mall hedgehog Dec 2014 #93
If you service the Middle Class, your business is in big trouble. nt TeamPooka Dec 2014 #94
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