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23. Someone said this was going to start happening...

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 06:27 PM

Dec 2014

... here on DU a few days ago. It had already crossed my mind too. And here it starts. Hope it doesn't continue. A deadly example of the old adage "Two wrongs don't make a right."

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City Councilman: 2 Police Officers Shot Dead In Brooklyn [View all] KinMd Dec 2014 OP

ABC has the officers shot while in their vehicle both critical... Historic NY Dec 2014 #1

Sad. Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 #2

When the police become the enemy of "the people" Horse with no Name Dec 2014 #3

Are you saying this is ok? GGJohn Dec 2014 #5

Had to look at my post again...no, I don't think I said that Horse with no Name Dec 2014 #9

No, it sounds like the shooter was looking to shoot any cops, GGJohn Dec 2014 #13

You do realize RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #16

He has the right to say whatever he wants in the land of Free Speech. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #42

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #45

Oh, so I guess it's okay RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #71

Was his speculation putting anyone in immediate danger to life/limb? NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #77

It most certainly is still illegal to falsely call 'Fire' in a crowded theater. If you KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #78

Nope. That is not the current legal standard. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #79

Sigh. Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969) overturned Schenck (1917), but in no way did it clear the way KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #84

It did away with the clear and present danger qualification. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #87

IANAL and have no desire to 'play this game,' since I am out of my depth. I will note, however, KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #88

Police can charge you with just about anything. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #89

Police get a conviction on anything most of the time RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #94

Oh I believe you. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #95

Your posts in this thread are knowledgable and apt, Nutmeg. Psephos Dec 2014 #109

And my comment comes nowhere close to that analogy. GGJohn Dec 2014 #80

Yes, it is ok to yell fire in a crowded theater GGJohn Dec 2014 #81

You do know that I said "it sounds like"? GGJohn Dec 2014 #73

Very sad Horse with no Name Dec 2014 #18

actually the cops were in the right place at the right time Skittles Dec 2014 #97

Touche'. GGJohn Dec 2014 #98

HEY! Skittles Dec 2014 #102

I didn't read it that way at all lame54 Dec 2014 #27

No, he's not saying that at all Scootaloo Dec 2014 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2014 #62

I didn't read that PatrynXX Dec 2014 #44

I think it is best to avoid, absent clear evidence, characterizing this particular shooter . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #25

Alleged (but not verified) tweet from the perp: kelly1mm Dec 2014 #4

Do you know the source for that? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #6

Nope, I do not have a source. There is a bunch of confusion and this MAY (hopefully) kelly1mm Dec 2014 #8

The instagram account is easy to find PersonNumber503602 Dec 2014 #10

It was there, now gone. Nm 4139 Dec 2014 #14

next is the Nostradamus quote lame54 Dec 2014 #28

there is also this: (unverified) Raine1967 Dec 2014 #11

The instagram account is gone now. PersonNumber503602 Dec 2014 #12

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #58

So sad Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #7

There's some conflicting reports on whether or both officers are dead KinMd Dec 2014 #15

Reports now saying one officer died, the other critically wounded inanna Dec 2014 #22

It's been updated to 2 dead. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #29

How awful! ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #17

Oh God. We do not need violence. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #19

+1 reddread Dec 2014 #37

And so it begins... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #20

The NYC PD have been operating out of control avebury Dec 2014 #24

What an INCORRECT, irrelevant, and irreverent thing to say at this time! George II Dec 2014 #30

"Irreverent"? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #33

+1 GliderGuider Dec 2014 #38

We should show these two officers a little respect at this time. George II Dec 2014 #40

Unless the police were actually guilty, Igel Dec 2014 #110

I'm not defending or excusing a damned thing Scootaloo Dec 2014 #111

Are you familiar with all the crap that has gone avebury Dec 2014 #43

YES, I am familiar with "all the crap" that people are SAYING is going on... George II Dec 2014 #47

You're looking for something to be outraged over. Scootaloo Dec 2014 #61

Well your blaming everyone at the NYPD these guys were out their protecting... Historic NY Dec 2014 #56

I am pointing out the unintended consequences when you avebury Dec 2014 #60

My thoughts exactly. PFunk Dec 2014 #39

The violence needs to be toned down, but I do not agree with your rationale. branford Dec 2014 #52

Maybe in Manhattan, where cops protect the rich and famous adigal Dec 2014 #101

There a reason why Mayor DiBlasio hired Rudy Giuliani's police commissioner, branford Dec 2014 #103

Perhaps outrage will follow this senseless shooting seveneyes Dec 2014 #21

Someone said this was going to start happening... ReRe Dec 2014 #23

Looks like both were christx30 Dec 2014 #26

NY1 is reporting the shooter murdered a woman in Baltimore before going to Brooklyn KinMd Dec 2014 #31

One story said it was his girlfriend he'd killed starroute Dec 2014 #34

She was shot, but she will recover (according to the reports) George II Dec 2014 #48

In this link it says 1 dead the other critical LiberalElite Dec 2014 #35

The time stamp is nearly 2 hours old. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #36

Oh ok sorry - I tried to check nt LiberalElite Dec 2014 #46

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #41

So I guess you're condoning what happened this afternoon? George II Dec 2014 #49

I do not comdone any violence npk Dec 2014 #51

So you KNOW that these two officers "stood behind corrupt officers.....etc."? George II Dec 2014 #54

don't you understand, George II? Skittles Dec 2014 #63

and pretty much nobody stands up to it here TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #72

they sound as ridiculous as racists Skittles Dec 2014 #75

Some types of bigotry, bias and generalizations are acceptable to far too many here on DU. branford Dec 2014 #76

sometimes even worse TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #86

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #91

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #55

What utter nonsense you spew.... giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #112

Some of the responses in this thread leave a lot to be desired. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #50

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #57

My thought go out to the families of the victims. bravenak Dec 2014 #53

I don't want to sound ghoulish, branford Dec 2014 #64

The suspect wasn't a local. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #65

Here's my 2 cents as an NYC resident - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #66

MICHAEL "Maybe so -- but it occurred to me. The soldiers are paid to fight -- the rebels aren't." jtuck004 Dec 2014 #67

Jesus.... kjones Dec 2014 #68

Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos..nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #69

May they rest in peace Catherine Vincent Dec 2014 #70

Rest in peace. 840high Dec 2014 #100

It could have been my nephew! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #74

Glad he's ok hrmjustin, GGJohn Dec 2014 #82

He texted me a few hours ago to say that he was ok but he is taking it hard. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #83

Yes. For those of us who have cops in the family...these are terrible times. Beausoir Dec 2014 #96

glad your nephew is ok, hrmjustin! nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #99

The Officers are Missed. leanforward Dec 2014 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #90

I'm having trouble feeling sympathy for the cops. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #92

I'm certainly not. GGJohn Dec 2014 #93

and that says everything about you as a human being still_one Dec 2014 #104

Well, I have sympathy for anyone murdered. montana_hazeleyes Dec 2014 #105

You are a vile human being in my onpinion if your are having trouble feeling kelly1mm Dec 2014 #106

Seriously? (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #107

stereotype much? Skittles Dec 2014 #108