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Leith

(7,806 posts)
46. These Are All Great Tips
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:58 PM
Oct 2018

But I'm going to offer some tips that are completely different. These come from my many years of learning foreign languages (now mostly gone through lack of practice) and teaching English to people who don't speak it.

First of all, relax. Yeah, really - relax. You are going to make mistakes in vocabulary, pronunciation, and sounds. Don't expect perfection.

Second, do not, do NOT pronounce sounds like their closest English equivalents. Sure, the "ts" sound at the beginning of a word it unnatural to a native English speaker so we want to just say the "s" sound. I cringe in embarrassment and irritation when I hear "sunami." That's a girl's name, not a natural disaster.

More on pronouncing unfamiliar sounds: one of my more frustrating memories of teaching sounds was trying to get a Japanese student to pronounce the English "th" sound. I was battling Japanese etiquette more than anything else because it is bad manners to show one's tongue. The best I could get her to do was place the tip of her tongue between her teeth. Then she took her tongue back into hiding and pronounced the "s" sound.

Lastly, it may feel to you like you are mocking native speakers, but try to imitate the accent as much as possible. This means:
- copying vowels: The Japanese "u" is more like in the English word pull than pool. Someone who pronounces "cot" like "coat" will always sound foreign and be more difficult to understand.
- stress on syllables: I once lost some important points because a speaker said a word with the accent on the wrong syllable. It sounded like "STADDidicts" and it was a good 20 seconds before I realized that he said "statisticts."
- rising and falling tones in sentences. Say these two sentences naturally:
"It's an icehouse."
"It's a nice house."
A native speaker will instantly know which one you are saying even without context.


Very sorry for being longwinded. But sometimes little things can mean the difference between sounding like you are having a conversation and just being a student whose turn it is to read from the textbook.

I've got a tip from my right wing mom.... Glamrock Oct 2018 #1
Lol Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #4
It's crazy. Glamrock Oct 2018 #9
Best way snowybirdie Oct 2018 #2
I agree. I even went one further DFW Oct 2018 #19
I agree. Immersion. Aristus Oct 2018 #22
Immersion sans English is the fastest way... hlthe2b Oct 2018 #3
That idea Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #5
You know you are making progress when you realize you dreamed in German... hlthe2b Oct 2018 #6
Ah yes. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #7
And you can read German papers from the 30s Corvo Bianco Oct 2018 #29
I use an online program called Duolingo everyday HeartachesNhangovers Oct 2018 #8
Duolingo! Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #13
Memrise is another. bikebloke Oct 2018 #17
I'm Currently RobinA Oct 2018 #42
Unless you're a freak of nature... SKKY Oct 2018 #10
Yea, Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #15
Pimsleur series forces you to speak it Maine-i-acs Oct 2018 #11
Thank you for the tip. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #12
Call the old folks' homes in your area... Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #14
Wow, great idea! Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #16
Try this: If you have a Netflix account, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #18
The cases are killing me. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #20
For correct gender, memorise gender as you learn noun--DER Mann, DAS Kind, DIE Frau bobbieinok Oct 2018 #23
For case, memorize simple sentence for each case for a sample noun, eg--- bobbieinok Oct 2018 #25
Aaurghh! Reminds me of college. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #27
I wish you'd been able to give me this great advice when I studied German in high schoool 50 yrs ago fierywoman Oct 2018 #32
Consider verbs. And compare to English bobbieinok Oct 2018 #35
Beautiful! (I come from German parents) -- thanks! fierywoman Oct 2018 #39
The gender articles in German don't make any sense to me. 3catwoman3 Oct 2018 #40
The reasons are probably lost in history. There is no obvious reason for any of it The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #41
Der, die, das... 3catwoman3 Oct 2018 #43
Donna Leon's Venetian murder mysteries were done by German tv. I got them fierywoman Oct 2018 #33
There are some excellent youtube videos for kids to learn German! bobbieinok Oct 2018 #21
Ocelot's suggestion is best if you are somewhat immobile. DFW Oct 2018 #24
Thanks for the film and tv suggestions! Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #44
These are films and TV series that captured the whole nation here in Germany DFW Oct 2018 #48
Go hang out with DU'er DFW. Get lots of opportunity to practice! ret5hd Oct 2018 #26
I guess Rosetta Stone is a thing of the past underpants Oct 2018 #28
Speak it with people who speak it. Iggo Oct 2018 #30
My experience. I was in casual conversation with three scientists. A Norwegian, NCjack Oct 2018 #31
On the other hand, I have also been told that if you are visiting one of those countries The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #37
Children's books California_Republic Oct 2018 #34
Larger metropolitan areas have language clubs Buzz cook Oct 2018 #36
Right here..... Hotler Oct 2018 #38
Thanks everyone for the replies! Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #45
These Are All Great Tips Leith Oct 2018 #46
Listen TuxedoKat Oct 2018 #47
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