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krispos42

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18. Harry Turtledove postulated the South winning the Civil War in his book "How Few Remain"...
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 01:05 AM
Dec 2016

...where the prologue described how some critical military communication is ALMOST lost (in the real world, it was lost and found by the North), which results in military and political victory for the South.

The story takes place a generation later, when the second Civil War breaks out.


He follows this up with a 4-book series where the USA and the CSA are on different sides when World War One breaks out: the US is allies with Germany and Austria-Hungary, and the CS is with Great Britain, France, and Russia. The brutality of trench warfare is mirrored here as US troops invade Canada and the CSA.

Note: Turtledove wrote a stand-alone novel called "The Guns of the South", where in 2013 (or so) South African pro-apartheid forces use a stolen time machine to ship AK-47s to the Army of Northern Virginia. The time machine only goes back exactly 150 years, and the white South Africans decide that having a modern slave-holding nation would be in their interest to prevent anti-apartheid forces from integrating South Africa in the early 21st Century. I think he wrote it before the collapse of apartheid. Anyway, of course, the South is able to quickly overcome the North due to the increased firepower of their soldiers. This story isn't the lead-in to "How Few Remain", but it seems the research required to write this one triggered a new branch of "what if..." books from Turtledove that he wrote without the sci-fi element of time travel.

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Thanks NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #4
I think I can go ahead and read it now... FrankfurtCat Dec 2016 #5
Free pdf version online... dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #13
Thank You... FrankfurtCat Dec 2016 #21
Have you heard of the 1632 book series? Staph Dec 2016 #6
Thanks NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #16
Omg, I've been trying to find this book for years now krispos42 Dec 2016 #17
Some thread necromancy here NewJeffCT Apr 2017 #24
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Time & Again by Jack Finney irisblue Dec 2016 #10
FATHERLAND by Robert Harris. nt raccoon Dec 2016 #11
I will second Time and Again, it is a beautiful story dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #12
Here is a site that gives awards for best alternative history books dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #14
Thanks! NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #15
Harry Turtledove postulated the South winning the Civil War in his book "How Few Remain"... krispos42 Dec 2016 #18
related type story THE LOST REGIMENT novel series by William Forstchen, fun with history TeamPooka Dec 2016 #19
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sounds promising NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #23
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