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OKIsItJustMe

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14. A clearer statement from Romm
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jan 2016
http://bos.sagepub.com/content/71/6/52.full
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Joe Romm: Why nuclear power will not be the whole solution to climate change[/font]

[font size=4]Abstract[/font]

[font size=3]In this interview, physicist and climate change blogger Joe Romm speaks with the Bulletin’s Dawn Stover about whether nuclear energy will be a major player in efforts to mitigate global warming. Romm points to economics as a limiting factor for nuclear power, at least until the world grows more desperate to reduce carbon pollution. He explains the reasons why nuclear energy is expensive in the United States and Europe but expanding in China. Although pessimistic about nuclear, Romm is optimistic that the world has reached a turning point for the adoption of renewable energy generation and storage technologies, energy efficiency, and carbon abatement policies.



BAS: What role do you see for nuclear power in the response to climate change? How big of a player should it be?

Romm: If one is going to avoid catastrophic warming and keep things below 2 degrees Celsius, which is certainly a great challenge, then you can’t rule out any carbon-free source. New nuclear plants are very expensive, which is why there has been exceedingly little construction in any market economy. Beyond China and India, you just don’t see a lot of sales, so I think the challenge for nuclear will be to maintain its market share. In the most optimistic projections, it can expand a little bit in the coming decades, but that will require a fair amount of sales because as plants get older in theory they have to be decommissioned. At some point, the world is going to get considerably more desperate to reduce carbon pollution than it is now. When we hit that phase, whatever is plausible and affordable and scalable is going to see massive deployment. To the extent that all these countries are already making serious commitments, then certainly people will take a second look at nuclear. If it could get its act together and come up with a modular design that was standardized and not too expensive, it might be able to see some growth.



BAS: What sort of portfolio will be needed to meet the Paris targets? According to the wedge theory—which says that a combination of strategies can together stabilize the climate—we’d need to triple the world’s current nuclear capacity just to cut emissions by one wedge, out of eight needed.

Romm: The International Energy Agency teamed up with the Nuclear Energy Agency to release a report earlier this year on their optimistic scenario, in which nuclear power sees modest growth in its share. Nuclear is not going to be the big contributor to the solution, if by big one means more than 10 percent; 80 to 90 percent of what we do is going to be other stuff. I am not in favor of shutting down nuclear plants, by the way. I don’t think that makes sense unless a plant isn’t safe.

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I would say that our stances are remarkably similar.
I really appreciate this article. Gregorian Jan 2016 #1
Happy it helps. kristopher Jan 2016 #5
Nuclear is not going to 'solve it's nagging problems' bloom Jan 2016 #2
So much mental horsepower being wasted on the wrong problem. GliderGuider Jan 2016 #3
As if you'd know what the right problems are... kristopher Jan 2016 #4
Bless the witless minions of the so-called "natural" gas industry. hunter Jan 2016 #6
Yep, a baseload system around nuclear would lock in heavy natgas consumption kristopher Jan 2016 #7
Fuck this shit: hunter Jan 2016 #22
The world is what it is kristopher Jan 2016 #23
I'm not a "self loathing human..." hunter Jan 2016 #26
You may be right... kristopher Jan 2016 #27
What is it about this consumer economy you can't do without? hunter Jan 2016 #28
Any time there is trade there is a "consumer economy". kristopher Jan 2016 #33
Then we pass like every other "innovative" exponentially growing population that has gone before us. hunter Jan 2016 #34
"Special"? kristopher Jan 2016 #35
Biology. It's been around a long time. hunter Jan 2016 #36
That's your core argument? kristopher Jan 2016 #39
Is that all you got? hunter Jan 2016 #40
When you keep rephrasing the same point... kristopher Jan 2016 #42
KerTWANG! Nihil Jan 2016 #46
I believe the chief problem is one of perceived absolutes OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #8
Yes, I've heard your 'belief' on this before, and you still kristopher Jan 2016 #9
Romm’s stance appears to be similar to mine OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #10
No it isn't. kristopher Jan 2016 #11
Then you misrepresent my stance OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #12
Your stance is clearly stated in the thread linked above kristopher Jan 2016 #13
A clearer statement from Romm OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #14
Not true. You are reading very selectively (again). kristopher Jan 2016 #15
You must be mistaking me with a straw man OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #16
That isn't relevant to the topic. kristopher Jan 2016 #17
You claim I “have been an unambiguous promoter of nuclear power for years.” OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #18
It's a flat fact. kristopher Jan 2016 #19
Then prove it or apologize OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #20
Riiiiight... kristopher Jan 2016 #21
The long list of links given says its not (nt) LouisvilleDem Jan 2016 #52
Joe Romm is yet another arsonist complaining about forest fires. NNadir Jan 2016 #24
Riiiight.... " Regulators question CO2 plan for $19.3 billion Virginia nuclear reactor" kristopher Jan 2016 #25
As some kind of Luddite I disagree with you about many things... hunter Jan 2016 #29
The implication being that he is the true environmentalist cprise Jan 2016 #31
? hunter Jan 2016 #32
Here in this forum, about a decade ago... cprise Jan 2016 #30
Since, at 440 reactors nuclear only supplied about 2% of global final energy supply... kristopher Jan 2016 #37
2% ? progressoid Jan 2016 #47
Check the titles to the charts kristopher Jan 2016 #48
I get that. But who made that chart? progressoid Jan 2016 #49
Perhaps that's the question you should have asked then. kristopher Jan 2016 #50
Essentially, they look at opposite ends of this type of chart kristopher Jan 2016 #51
Has anyone produced an updated (e.g., 2015) version of that 2010 diagram yet? Nihil Jan 2016 #53
No. We can choose a high energy industrial society or not. hunter Jan 2016 #38
There you go again with meaningless metrics kristopher Jan 2016 #41
I've maybe slept with, but not quite fucked, some of your heroes. hunter Jan 2016 #43
I have no idea what you are talking about. kristopher Jan 2016 #44
Lucky you. It was just a dream. hunter Jan 2016 #45
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