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Binkie The Clown

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19. Terrific is horrible!
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 02:56 AM
Jan 2016

Terrific: 1667, "frightening," from L. terrificus "causing terror or fear," from terrere "fill with fear" (see terrible) + root of facere "to make" (see factitious). Weakened sensed of "very great, severe" (e.g. terrific headache) appeared 1809; colloquial sense of "excellent" began 1888.

First use is not the permanent meaning. Language is fluid.

Fortunately English does not have a ruling body that declares ex cathedra what a word must mean. And because of this, words shift and change as time goes on. It doesn't much matter what the originator of a coinage had in mind as the definition, but in this case the author clearly wanted a word to define a diet:

We should all consider carefully what our Group, and our magazine, and ourselves, shall be called. 'Non-dairy' has become established as a generally understood colloquialism, but like 'non-lacto' it is too negative. Moreover it does not imply that we are opposed to the use of eggs as food. We need a name that suggests what we do eat, and if possible one that conveys the idea that even with all animal foods taboo, Nature still offers us a bewildering assortment from which to choose. 'Vegetarian' and 'Fruitarian' are already associated with societies that allow the 'fruits'(!) of cows and fowls, therefore it seems we must make a new and appropriate word. As this first issue of our periodical had to be named, I have used the title "The Vegan News". Should we adopt this, our diet will soon become known as a VEGAN diet, and we should aspire to the rank of VEGANS.


So I'm glad we finally settled that. "Vegan" refers to diet, and many vegans ALSO base their diet on moral grounds and exclude all animal products. However, that aspect of veganism was not expressly mentioned in the "Wanted - A Name" paragraph quoted above, and is not a necessary feature of "veganism".
Humans who eat other mammals are one Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #1
I wouldn't go that far. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #5
And what if they do? 2naSalit Dec 2015 #2
I agree. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #4
Frankly, my being a vegan has nothing to do with animal cruelty. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #3
And that's perfectly fine, Binkie. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #6
Then you are not considered vegan. chernabog Dec 2015 #10
Ah, the famous "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #11
So you're just gonna assume chernabog Dec 2015 #12
Let me see. Miriam Webster, respected authority vs a complete stranger's own definition... Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #13
Im just saying chernabog Dec 2015 #14
Websters, and most of the other authorities are just saying: yes it is. n/t end of discussion. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #15
As the word was coined in living memory and the first printed usage is available, we know the answer LeftyMom Jan 2016 #18
Terrific is horrible! Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #19
God bless, but doesn't know shit all what he/she/it is talking about. flvegan Jan 2016 #20
Consult a textbook on linguistics. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #21
Settled nothing. You're wrong. flvegan Jan 2016 #22
I'm not wrong and you're not wrong. You are a prescripitivist and and I am a descriptivist. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #23
So, are we done here? flvegan Jan 2016 #24
Yes. Done. You still don't get it, and I'm through trying to explain it to you. n/t Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #25
Awesome! *wipes hands* flvegan Jan 2016 #26
Health Vegan. PyaarRevolution Dec 2015 #16
I'm a vegan and I happily roasted a turkey for the Family Christmas gathering. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #17
The first time those words were LiberalElite Dec 2015 #7
Im glad you made the right decision, LE! darkangel218 Dec 2015 #8
I was leaning that way then LiberalElite Dec 2015 #9
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