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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
23. I'm not wrong and you're not wrong. You are a prescripitivist and and I am a descriptivist.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:57 AM
Jan 2016

I understand that distinction and you , apparently, do not. That does not make you an idiot, it makes you uniformed on matters of lexicography. And if calling me an idiot is your only defense, then you truly do not understand the distinction.

You define the word they way you insist it must be used by others, (prescriptive) and I define the word they way it is actually used by others (descriptive).

For either of us to call the other wrong is to confess ignorance of the overarching domain. And since you seem intimidated by my use of "many words" let me just quote wikipedia:

Linguistic prescription (or prescriptivism) is the practice of elevating one variety or manner of language use over another. (your preferred approach)


VS

In the study of language, description or descriptive linguistics is the work of objectively analyzing and describing how language is actually used (or how it was used in the past) by a group of people in a speech community.

All scholarly research in linguistics is descriptive; like all other sciences, its aim is to observe the linguistic world as it is, without the bias of preconceived ideas about how it ought to be. (my preferred approach)


Do you now understand my point? If you do, I am happy that I could help you. If you do not, then you're just being deliberately obtuse. Either way, I will not waste any more time on this pointless discussion since it was settled decades ago by the linguistic community, and there's no need for me to "settle" it again. It's settled science.

On edit: And why did I bother to respond at all? Because you said I "don't know shit" and that I'm "an idiot". You don't even know me, yet you feel comfortable hurling hurtful insults at me for no other reason than that you didn't understand my point. That, frankly, hurt my feelings (and if that makes you happy, well then congratulations on that marvelous accomplishment, You may be a vegan because you don't want to treat animals with cruelty, but you apparently have no difficulty treat fellow human beings with cruelty.)
Humans who eat other mammals are one Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #1
I wouldn't go that far. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #5
And what if they do? 2naSalit Dec 2015 #2
I agree. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #4
Frankly, my being a vegan has nothing to do with animal cruelty. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #3
And that's perfectly fine, Binkie. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #6
Then you are not considered vegan. chernabog Dec 2015 #10
Ah, the famous "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #11
So you're just gonna assume chernabog Dec 2015 #12
Let me see. Miriam Webster, respected authority vs a complete stranger's own definition... Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #13
Im just saying chernabog Dec 2015 #14
Websters, and most of the other authorities are just saying: yes it is. n/t end of discussion. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #15
As the word was coined in living memory and the first printed usage is available, we know the answer LeftyMom Jan 2016 #18
Terrific is horrible! Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #19
God bless, but doesn't know shit all what he/she/it is talking about. flvegan Jan 2016 #20
Consult a textbook on linguistics. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #21
Settled nothing. You're wrong. flvegan Jan 2016 #22
I'm not wrong and you're not wrong. You are a prescripitivist and and I am a descriptivist. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #23
So, are we done here? flvegan Jan 2016 #24
Yes. Done. You still don't get it, and I'm through trying to explain it to you. n/t Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #25
Awesome! *wipes hands* flvegan Jan 2016 #26
Health Vegan. PyaarRevolution Dec 2015 #16
I'm a vegan and I happily roasted a turkey for the Family Christmas gathering. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #17
The first time those words were LiberalElite Dec 2015 #7
Im glad you made the right decision, LE! darkangel218 Dec 2015 #8
I was leaning that way then LiberalElite Dec 2015 #9
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