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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. You are hilarious, Shira
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:11 PM
Nov 2013

Well, maybe not hilarious - "laughable" is a better word, perhaps.

Yes, I know what the writer is talking about. That's what I'm calling out. To make the argument of a "new antisemitism" is to not only discount real, actual antisemitism targeting Jewish people, but it also discounts those people themselves, except when they can be exploited as props. Instead, it replaces them with the government of Israel, which is placed as the pinnacle of Jewishness, the sole expression of Judaic culture and being. To argue for this "new antisemitism" is essentially to say that Israeli policy is the definition of Jewishness, and thus criticism of that policy is hatred of Jews.

Thus to claim for this "new antisemitism" shit is not only just straight-up fascism - it values the state above the people, while equating that state's government with those people - but it is also inherently antisemitic, in that it creates a narrative where all Jews are defined by Israel's actions, while Jewish experience and expression outside the context of Israeli policy is discounted, devalued, and dismissed - including, unfortunately enough, their labors with actual antisemitism.

After all. They're not real Jews, according to the Zionist narrative. Hell, even your own posts make this clear - you simply cannot bring yourself to understand that not all Jews are Israelis (A majority aren't) nor can you get it through your head that even within Israel, Israeli policy does not speak for all Jews - and certainly does not do so worldwide. And when this is pointed out to you, you seem to stick your thumbs in your ears and go "LALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU YOU'RE LYING LALALALALALALALA."

Also, interesting that you disagree with Yehoshua's view of Jews. It's funny really, because under the logic you apply to everyone else around here, your admiration of the guy makes you a Jew-hating shit. How nice that, while you are handjobbing an antisemite, you get to say "yes, but I disagree with him on that, so it's okay." Huh. How odd. Nobody else around here would be granted an out like that. Why is that?

It is interesting to see how the stereotype has changed oberliner Nov 2013 #1
Fascinating that 38% of Europe believes Israel is waging war of extermination vs. Palestinians. n/t shira Nov 2013 #2
That even a single person believes that is startling oberliner Nov 2013 #3
Interesting article Scootaloo Nov 2013 #4
Wha...? Zionist antisemitism? Jews aren't really Jews? Are you on crack? shira Nov 2013 #5
Yes, Shira Scootaloo Nov 2013 #7
You're arguing a straw-man, reading nonsense into the OP that isn't there. shira Nov 2013 #12
You are hilarious, Shira Scootaloo Nov 2013 #14
Talking about the new antisemitism doesn't discount the old. No one is saying that.... shira Nov 2013 #17
You don't think this new antisemitism affects individual Jews worldwide, do you? shira Nov 2013 #19
I found the final paragraph fascinating azurnoir Nov 2013 #6
It's called the antizionist BDS movement, dear. n/t shira Nov 2013 #8
John Kerry is part of the antizionist BDS movement? azurnoir Nov 2013 #9
I didn't mention Kerry, you did. I'm referring to the OP. Stay on topic. n/t shira Nov 2013 #10
I was on topic, you replied to my comment asking how Kerry's comment fits into the azurnoir Nov 2013 #11
The paragraph u quoted refers to the antizionist bds movement & has nothing to do with the SoS. shira Nov 2013 #13
But don't 'some' Israelis PM already consider the settlements part of Israel azurnoir Nov 2013 #15
So? How about getting back to the topic? n/t shira Nov 2013 #16
and what topic do you choose? azurnoir Nov 2013 #18
No King_David Nov 2013 #20
Define "weak again"? In exact terms azurnoir Nov 2013 #21
My post was clear, King_David Nov 2013 #24
ah okay don't wish to make an actual reply to what you consider the map of Israel to be azurnoir Nov 2013 #25
Good because I'm not sure that anyone else did. King_David Nov 2013 #26
anyone else did what? I'll answer nothing to hide on the map of Israel azurnoir Nov 2013 #27
‘Hitler should have killed all Jews,’ teens in Holland say shira Nov 2013 #22
Short Video: Is There Anti-Semitism on College Campuses? shira Nov 2013 #23
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